EZ Server

So im starting this thread, for screenshots of people who act like children in global chat, act like fools in zones by training and griefing people, etc..
This is so we dont clog up other channels with this stuff, obviously alot due to me... seeing as how im always trying to watch out for the bad apples on EZ. Just trying to keep the good here, and kick out the bad.
Here is one from about 10minutes ago (1210 PST).

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Im sure there is some way to IP Ban this fool, unfortunately i've never been an Admin for EQ so im not entirely sure.

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Note on the above: Some people mentioned in the story (Uxtalzon and especially Fuzynuts) are the same ones that were trying to shut Khiemrakklord up after he was trying to troll anyone and everyone, especially Project 1999 people. Could be related, as in that it's the same person or just someone who saw the conversation.

Hunter.. do your magic please...
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More than an hour later, still getting spammed by this nonsense.
Also has been moved to /auction

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Seriously?

you might want to edit out your guild chat

while it's not a public channel so foul language probably wont be an issue

you posting it on here makes it public

well hunter said the dude lived in like wimberly texas or something like that...if anyone lives in texas just go to his house and you will have yourself some satisfaction and a new computer :) talking about the spammer

Be carefull though... i heard they allowed to shoot trespassers in Texas :)

i dont understand why he would even waste his time in a malicious way to begin with. And serious. why the hell even consider playing/ trolling/ spamming and MMO on dial up?

I am the char displayed as "Nipple", sorry if this offended anyone it was an inappropriate name to choose to begin with. For anyone who previously knew me as this name my ingame name is now "Portis"

Nice name. Reminds me of the band

stop posting this stuff please.  he's probably enjoying the exposure

Maybe, but its the point of the thread. To point out people. And the attention they recieve is.. well.... usually banning *shrug*

The name 'Nipple' offends you enough to suggest that person should be banned?  Really?

Well I was banned but its fixed and i am fine with that. Hunter kindly allowed me a name change to, well a prefered name really "Portis". When I started here temporarily from p1999 it was just a bit of fun. I didnt intend staying and came with several folk who have all gone back. I, on the other hand, Love it here and intend on staying till the bitter end. Great folk, great concept, I could not be happier. When I began here the name nipple was the first thing that cropped into my head. It didnt matter, now that it does and I have the name I used for the past 10 years in reputable highend guilds I am happy.

Additionally its a little worse, my entire name was "Nipple Tweek" which I would say is reasonably sexual and not suitable, I just didnt have my clever hat on at the time.

I was dealt with very fairly and am happy with my new name.

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So if I made a char named Eastindiantreechaser, you'd post me here?

*edit: just to clarify, poonchaser is not me and i don't know him/her

If you really think that is the real meaning behind the name then you could use a good dose of common sense. It is prolly something more like this:

PoonChaser    
   
1. Someone who chases poon, A straight male.
2. A vulgar name for a straight male who is extreamly insecure about his manhood.
1. Look at that guy chase that poon.

Yeah, maybe if you look it up at urbandictionary.com

And if we went off that.  We'd have to ban Reed.  Here's an actual definition of Reed off UD.

No but we use common sense. Common sense tells us that that is not the common or even relatively known definition of Reed. However, commons sense also tells us, that the reference I gave for defining poonchaser is commonly accepted as the definition. Whereas the definition you gave is unknown until someone pulls an obscure reference from underneath the internet.

As for defining Reed, there are several definitions and you chose one of the ones that is least common and least known. What I am trying to say is you actually looked for a way to find a poor definition of reed, whereas it does not take really any effort at all to find the poor meaning behind poonchaser.

Can you please provide a reference?



Exactly.  That's what you're doing for poon.  Go to dictionary.com and you'll find the first and only definition for the word "poon" is stated above.  You'd have to go dig deep in the internet to find a definition that says otherwise.  Which is what I did for "reed" to prove a point.

Hehe come on!! I got banned for the name Nipple you cant tell me Poon isnt derogetory because it has another meaning which isnt the one intended here. Twat is a pregnant goldfish, but its also a very abbusive term where i am from :)

Again, looking at dictionary.com and meriam-webster.com the word "twat" only has one definition- vulva.  These are legitimate sites from which their content is derived from authoritative licensed and proprietary sources.  To find the definition that states it is a pregnant goldfish, or whatever, you'd have to dig deep into the interwebs and find a definition on an unreliable/untrusted website, such as urbandictionary.com.

As far as the reference I meant where on the internet the definitions have been found. You have already pointed them out, (UD and websters, etc.) so there was no need to mention them again.

Again with common sense. There is no .com for you to get the common sense to come to the realization that poonchaser was not referring to the meaning you found at websters. To suggest that the char was created with anything other than a sexual reference is ludicrous. I could litter my post with all sorts of words that have dual meanings, (ass, bitch, many more). According to your post because there are easily found alternate definitions we should be able to name ourselves that as well. However using common sense we know if someone did make a char with those names they would not be meaning donkey or female dog. That same common sense is telling us that Reed did not choose his name to reference something that no one probably heard of until you pointed it out. Again, using that same common sense it is easy to see that poonchaser chose that name because of the obvious sexual connotations. To suggest another reason is being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

Poon made me think of the cyclop Proon... oh well :)

just my 2cp

Shea, your rediculous, Poonchaser.... lol.... who cares what definition of "poon" you found, obviously the guy isnt using your definition.

That whole definition of my name, the one about being sun burnt by moon, seems pretty accurate actually heh.
very fair skinned in RL (RL last name is Reed too, spooky i know). So i burn easily.
apparently that website stalks me *shrug*

And i mentioned before, i post in this thread to just make things known to Hunter, like name nerfs in this case. I don't want them banned, removed from the server or anything. Just the name changed is all im asking for. Granted no on RP's, but the fact we play a fantasy-ish game kinda has its own feel. Poonchaser and Cummingtonight do not fit in those fantasy type name category. Even Reed doens't fit extremely well, but at least its not so blatantly retarded and slapping the very loose naming policy policing we have in the face.

Well, you created the thread titled "screenshots of people who need to be banned", and you're posting screenshots of people in the thread.  One would think you want them banned.  I feel bad for them.

if i could change the name i would, originally it was meant for that person spamming OOC all day. Then i just started posting people who feel they need attention from their "unique" or "eye catching" names. Not all of them are bad people. I think Portis is a fine person, just made a poor decision at the time with his SK name, got it changed, and he's just fine now. I don't have a negative thing to say about the guy.
I would just hope same would go for these folks.

Awww, thanks Reed.. ARE YOU SINGLE?? I am at the keyboard awaiting your reply.

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oh wow... lol

sadly im married already, cant run away (or electric wheelchair away rather) with you and live happily ever after.
Im all stuck with my awesome wife and soon to have a baby (October)... woe is me.. =/

Gratz m8:)

i should post a pic of the wife with mine in RL thread. how mean of me lol

Not a ban but maybe a name change.
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i got a few i need to post when i get some more time

I almost got banned for the name Nipple, cant see Hunter been as kind with this one. Its a lot worse then "Nipple" on so many levels :)

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I get effing sick of the dumb and offensive names on the server. I wish there would be a name ban to get rid of some of the tripe and lower the pop :)  Here is a small sample of what some tards think is amusing.
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Definately looks like a name cull is in order......at least a rename.

i got a few pics of Nipplehair as well, just didnt crop and post. thanks Temptrix =)

AFAIK, the char in question has to be logged in for Hunter to "rename flag" them.

Summer is here, School is out.

That's all i'm gonna say.

we need to stay on top of this, it is annoying...offensive and annoying...did i mention annoying? And its not like I put on armor and get my swords out when I play, but it IS ruining the gaming roleplay feel to me. And from what alot of people in game say, they feel the same way.

DO these people think they are cleaver, funny, or are they just that braindead they cant think of a decent gaming tag?

There is the random name gen tool at character creation....and it wont populate with something stupid like "mr fuzzy anus of the crop circle".

As if the population isnt too high already, atleast let it be over populated with appropriate roleplay names and intelligent players/.
can i get a motafuckin amen!

Amen!

I agree. The whole server has had an influx of retarded fucking people lately. Reboot from last night comes to mind. It was fine when 1 or 2 people did it, easy to ignore. But now you can do /who <profanity> all and get at least 1 player for whatever word you chose. Bitches need ban hammered.

I would like to say though Trend that last i checked name generator didn't work :(. I may be wrong as i haven't tried in a VERY long time but last i used it it only generated the equivalent of slamming your face on the keyboard. Like:

Gdsveeeuks
or
Tcsnzkghjfsgls
or
Hdsgllsilsighijljls
or my personal favorite just plain "T" XD

Sorry but this was too good to resist.
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Are you using Underfoot? =O

LMAO!  Mr Fuzzy Anus... Bwuahahaha.  Good giggles :x I like how he's a big fat Troll to.

xiggie ...you sonof a bitch. lol

lmao yeah, I didnt even think about it till i got to char creation, lol. Glad you like it, haha.

No using SoF, didnt set up ui at all so default, but old models cept for humans

Like how I waved to ya? Lol. Doh, I shoulda put, does the dirty dance with temptrix, lol. Next time, next time, lol.

These names....jesus tapdancing people....come on.

Anyway this group, wiped and left all the adds after killing MOW.

and didnt respond to any tells asking if they would comefinish their pull and take care of the adds in the zone. No response.

I cleaned up their mess in there but i suggest bannage on the stupidity and offensiveness of the names alone...ill look past being a shitty gamer.

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Really? The pet owner's name underneath Pet name thing is from Underfoot. I assume then that it's some form of third party software? ;P

Yeah, is mq2. Funny how a lot of what is on mq2 eventually made it into the hard code of eq.

Think a lote of games do that.  Look at wow they take the most use ad dons and inter grade them into there ui.

IDK about banning exactly, name nerf would suffice...

but then again, an example could be made *shrug*

Do names like this really offend people? Come on guys, seriously?


(Hope they don't make me change my name lol)

Personally?  No.

Is it against the server rules?  Yes.

And can (not necessarily by me) be used as an indicator of the person's maturity.

It takes a lot for me to get offended.  I don't really find the names so much offensive as they are obnoxious.  It's like going on a nice nature hike to get away from it all and finding garbage all over the pristine mountain trails... they are an effing eyesore and I personally find them to distract from the game itself.  Call me crazy, say that my opinion is invalid and stupid I really don't care.  Am I going to stop playing the game cause some middle school kid names his monk Dickstroker Spoogalot?  Probably not.  I will however,  continue being annoyed and ostracizing these people.

Totally understandable. My bad for not reading the server rules before making my char and forum account. I sent Hunter a PM requesting a name change.

Sorry when i first made Potbowl i didn't read the server rules, ill send a email to hunter asking for a name change. Hope i didn't offend anyone.

Honest question:

If profanity in names is not allowed, shouldn't that carry over to in game chat and the forums also?

There is a difference between naming yourself Shithead and saying shithead in chat or on the forums. Not saying anyone is naming their selves shithead or being a shithead, just using it as an example.

Mind explaining how that is different?

I'm not trying to troll here. Just trying to understand why any and all language is allowed, but character names are very strict.

Honestly, profanity is a part of life now and days. I can understand people get pised at someone who uses "fuck" or something over and over again in one sentance or something like that, but I dont understand why someone would get pissed at someone using profanity here and there. To me though someone with the name "Shithead" is like someone constantly using profanity because the word "Shithead" is always there. Someone that says "shithead" in chat is differant because it's not always there. And some of these names could also show how intelligant someone is. I know I wouldn't group with someone name Shithead. Why would you name a character something like that anyways? I mean if you play for hours and hours would would you want to see Shithead on your screen all day. lol

That is a good explanation. Thanks :)

It's gaming culture.  For the most part, gamers have strange senses of humor, and find names like the ones you're all complaing about, funny.  To the low % of gamers that aren't into that, it doesn't make sense why they'd pick the name, obviously.  I have my last name on my main (Gogokogk) as Cannabis, because I enjoy smoking it.  Should I be banned? People who smoke marijuana have their own culture, so whats so bad about embracing it? Unless you're incredibly up-tight, I'm not sure how names with marijuana references offend you.

word of the wise:

before you intend to play on a server, ensure you read rules so you dont look like an ass

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if profanity offends you then maybe online gaming is not for you.
Can always filter bad words out.
If a character name is just so bad you cant stand it then PM the admin and just dont spend time with the player.

I know plenty of young people that are mature and plenty of old and the same goes for being immature. Age has nothing to do with it.
So find what you like and stick to it but demanding other people adjust their play style to suit your needs is selfish and greedy. Unless someone named "Phatballsack" is doing shit to grief you just ignore them.

+1

Sadly someone with an offesnive name could be "griefing" people by having that name

So if "Phatballsack" is corpse camping you: is it considered teabagging?

How so?

/facepalm

Grief

NOUN
1. intense sorrow: great sadness, especially as a result of a death
2. cause of intense sorrow: the cause of intense, deep, and profound sorrow, especially a specific event or situation
3. trouble: annoyance or trouble ( informal )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer

See the part about written or verbal insults. You can try denying it but the mass majority of people do consider it insulting to have to constantly look at the vulgar choices of names people are making here recently. It is really getting out of hand.

Aye, a lot of people do consider it an annoyance etc... I personally don't care, I even laugh at some of the names, but people need to grow up sometimes and respect the rules of the server and others. I mean if you had a boss that didn't want you to use profanity while working would you be like "fuck you" and do it anyways? Think of this like Hunter is your boss and everyone you play with is other employees. He set the rules and telling him to fuck off would result in a loss of job + most of the the emlpoyess don't want to hear/see the profanity. Sure some don't care but the majority don't wanna see it.

This.

Personally, I dont care what someone calls their toon. But, server rules are rules.
If we do not at least try to make an effort to stem the influx of immature names then it gets worse.

Get off your high horse.

You really let someone's name cause you "intense sorrow"? That is sad.

Lol, high horse?

You ask how so and are provided a deffinition.

Are you going to answer my question?

I dont understand? The fact people are upset about it here and these people play on the server or they wouldnt post here... So is this not griefing? Its not like the people posting here play a different game or on a different server. The GMs act to keep the server population as a whole happy, people are unhappy with bad names, dont want to see it. To top it off, its clearly explained in server rules.

What do you need? A diagram?

You think certain people need a server rule book?

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Well you gotta remember, you're speaking with someone with a subjective name to begin with, so they're going to try finding ways to defend themselves any way possible. Whether or not it includes being irrational not depends on person i guess

So you could fight it with "Well there is no official rule on EZ Server about naming policy" That is true (I even checked, to make sure). But I just don't see how you could enjoy playing running around with a character named "Dickfart" or something. Its something a child would do, thinking its funny.

I did that stuff when i was 12 or so, playing Diablo 2 or Halo or Whatever with char names like "Bloodback Baby Eatter" and stuff. Yeah you get your kicks, and for a game where you dont have to interact with the same people all that often, its kinda whatever for most. EQ is different however, you have to see the same people everyday, in OOC or otherwise. Build that reputation and good standing with the general populace. How serious are they going to take you with a fucked up name to begin with?

Just saying, it doesn't take much to realize. Necrophagist isnt exactly a bad name imo. I imagine it pronounced Necro-Phage-Ist (last part kinda like Genophage from Mass Effect).

"Necrophagist" is Greek for "eater of the dead".

As for people getting really sad and offended over names, what good is posting screen shots of those people in this thread doing? If you think it's something everyone shouldn't have to see, why are you posting it here? Why don't you just PM Hunter? Getting a rise out of people is usually the reason one would choose an offensive name to begin with.

There is another thread on here where middle eastern people referred to as "sand people". So we are allowed to make racial slurs here but I can't name my character "PoopButt"?

Primarily posting here was for Hunter, he could see the character, name and make a choice from that. IIRC Portis was the one named Nipple Tweek long long ago, and it was flagged and he changed it. At the time, im sure he was a little pissed but even now i feel i have a good working relationship with him. No hard feelings, just trying to keep some sort of order. More players are likely to try, test, play, and stay here if they aren't seeing under the impression a bunch of WoW kids are here.

What's in a name anyways?  If all the bad words or off color names were taken out, what would we complain about then?  You simply can not please all the people all the time.  I think if my name offends someone than that is their problem not mine.

I don't go out of my way to offend anyone yet I am sure there are people that have been offended by me.  If silly names offend anyone, maybe they should unplug from the internet and gaming and go outside.  If someone doesn't like what they see, maybe they should not look at it.

It's like having a tattoo that says fuck off on one's forehead.  I wouldn't expect them to change for me because I don't like the word fuck and never want to see it, it is their forehead more power to them. But at the same time, they can't expect to be taken seriously upon first impression.  Someone that has that written on their forehead probably doesn't want to be bothered anyways so the last thing I would do is push my beliefs onto them.

I use gaming as an out from the daily grind.  I think silly names help with that.  If I am totally engulfed in raiding/grinding/looking at silly names then there is no room to worry about work and paying bills and not starving and things.  Not saying I blow that stuff off, just meaning that gaming is a brief and welcome distraction.

If someone needs a place to express them self freely than why don't we let them?  These people that do these goofy things here do them because you can't do them in real life.  I wouldn't name my child dickfart in real life but what's wrong with giving it to my eq monk?

Interesting, Portis is getting all bent outta shape here and he himself was a violator of this rule.

Boneman, I agree with your post 100%. No character name in any game has every affected me in any way (besides laughing) and it never will.

What's in a name?
Something that could be of offense to people, that's what.

One of the server rules:
NO BAD WORDS
Offensive words in names or public chat will not be tolerated, such as anything sexual, racist, hateful, etc.

Not my rules, Hunter's.  Ones that people who play on the server are expected (I would imagine) to follow, else find another server to play on, or create one of their own.

Some of the names that I see flying about I find very amusing.  But that doesn't mean to say that they are not offensive to some people.

The point I brought up earlier is the plethora of swear words in public chat and on the forums. You can say the F word in ooc, you can post racist comments on the forums, but you better not name you char PoopButt or else you're in trouble!

If you actually looked at the beginning of this thread, one of the first (if not *the* first) screenshots is of someone griefing in OOC.........

So it is not specifically focussed on names.

Boy, sure is a shame that there isn't an ignore function in EQ....

Portis may have had to get a name change, doesn't mean he is a bad guy... and after the whole thing he even said he didn't realize. I think he is entitled to getting bent outta shape if he got a name nerf, and other people aren't. Otherwise, why make him change his name? Obviously Hunter saw some reason to make him change it, same i would imagine he would decide to change others. Not to mention now Portis is pretty well known, and progressing with his guild in tow. I can respect that

I wish there was one on the forums due to the headache you seem to be giving me and many others right now.

QQ

/ignore doesn't work on SoD, which is now pretty much the preferred client.  You also can't ignore names.  Well I guess you could turn them all off, but you can't just turn specific ones off.

If you can't understand why people don't want to see stupid names like "Dickbuttpenisfart" then please go play on another server, this one's not FOR you.

The reason 4-letter words are somewhat tolerated in /ooc is because there's a filter (that does work), and people can use it.  But if you use "clever" mispellings to get around the filter, or just go overboard you WILL get in trouble.  Or for things like racism/hate speech etc. which are not allowed either.

It's not a hard concept.  No I don't lay awake at night ruminating over how that guy named "Pedorape" ruined my whole life.  But I don't think they are terribly amusing either.  Or I should say, they are slightly amusing, for the 5 minutes they exist before that person is banned, which is what should happen.  Rules are F'ing rules, you play by them or you go byebye.

Not that this is even up for discussion (as some seem to think it is), but I'll go on record saying that I really appreciate the attempts to keep things clean.

To those who say, 'get off your high horse' I reply 'get out of the gutter'. There's more to life than trying to see how nasty and vulgar you can be. If you want smut, stench and debauchery there are plenty of places on the Internet you can go for that.

Enjoy the breath of fresh air that EZ Server is... Or go build your own.

There is no sense in trying to explain something to someone who has already decided they are not going to accept any explanation. Things have already been explained over and over to necrowhatever yet he chooses to argue the same points over and over again. Then he goes on the childish 'QQ' and 'holier than thou' accusations. He is a drama queen and an attention whore. His whole arguement that necrophagist is Greek for "eater of the dead" is not valid because he changed it from necrofagist, which to me means that you are a guy and you want to have sex with male corpses. That is why it is offensive. I think most people would share that same assessment but you can go ahead and call me a pervert for having such a vulgar mind that I would get that from it instead of your obscure greek interpretation. Oh and I know one of the stupidly named people will show up here and say, 'oh I didn't get that from it, you are a pervert'.

Fact is, your game is not about getting gear or lvl'ing or even mastering content. Your game is about irritating people and arguing an extremist opinion. You will play that game until you get bored. You will likely never see end game content because you are not looking for end game content and honestly, no one any good at the game is going to want to have you anyway. You will disappear just as quickly as you showed up.

So get your jollies and call me names and accuse me of QQ, hell while your at it go the complete troll route and accuse me of griefing you. Anyone who has any kind of staying power knows what your about. Your opinion does not matter, you don't count. Because annoyances are just that, annoyances. Now be a good little annoyance and come up with something witty.

I'm glad you have so much free time that you can write a short essay about me. Looks like you have me all figured out ::rolleyes::

More wit, less bs.

Not sure why you people are fighting.
Rules are rules.
Hunter made the rules and if you believe the rules should be relaxed or removed, make a new thread.
This thread is about those whos character names are againts the RULES. Not about whether or not the rule is fair or not.

You are 100% correct.

If you really agree this is correct then you should delete all your posts because according to what your agreeing with none of your posts have been on topic.

No thanks.

Funny you would ask that of me, because in the first thread I made about AAs not working, you constantly trolled it over and over after I asked you very nicely to stay on the subject. I ended up deleting the thread because you ruined it. What a great way to greet a new member of your community.

You are simply an angry kid who needs to act like he is better than everyone else on the internet. Good for you.

Wha? Didn't think I'd ever use this line, but, isn't this the pot calling the kettle black

It took you that long to come up with that lame post? As I recall you were got rude with someone cause they made a comment about your name. I then explained to you why someone was making a post about your name. As for greeting someone new, what you have brought to the server so far I would rather not see.

Like I said before, you'll get bored and move on.

Sorry, I have other things in my life going on besides thinking about what to post on this forum.

How do you know I'll get bored and move on? Are you a wizard IRL?

No, I have been playing on this server for over a year and other emu servers for several years. I have seen your kind plenty of times enough to know that you have no staying power.

obviously not, hence your posting

you both are going too far in a stupid thread.
Step away from the keyboard.

Reed, mate...I'm shocked.

I am lost on how to respond. There are obvious reasons for legit name change/bans (like the original few posts of Mr. FacerolledName EXPLODING in ooc). However, the bulk of your posts seem to be either butthurt or rage posts.

Poonchaser/Pooncatcher is a good player who bothers VERY few people (if anyone). Hell he drug my ass through ldon to get my 2.0 while he was farming charms/coins/cards.

Potbowl is another fine player. If I'm not mistaken, he recently got his RoA100. (I'm detecting some jealousy here..) He is friendly, albeit a bit amusingly sarcastic at times.

However there are some legit changes needed SOMETIMES. If a kid names himself Babyrapinghoedown or something similarly insane...well the choice is obvious.

I have a wizard named Hateborne, a druid named Wifflebat, a shaman named Alarmclock, and a shadowknight named Verlorenen.

Am I going to get banhammered for not using an "RP appropriate name"?


Reed, you need to chill out my friend and stop trying to police EZ.

EZ is Policed by the players. Weather or not a player wants to police is entirely up to Them, those names you mentioned are slightly against some EZ rules, and i know them to be good people. But rules are rules. And if someone gives half a damn they can post stuff and get there named changed.

Naming rules apply to both good and bad people equally. I assure you jealously is not motivation.

i guess so much for my Warrior/Cleric combo: Yohoho and Bottleofrum.  :(

Good Player or not, get a name change and everything is fine. I could care less if he was an ass hat or great community helper, get a name change.


Why would i be jealous, I know you are new... I have had my RoA 100 for about a month and some change now. No reason for me to be jealous.


No the same reason Reed, or Tosser, or Scootz, or anyone else i can think of right off hand wouldn't get name nerfed. They are harmless and in no way offensive to anyone. Alarmclock can not be made to offend anyone really, unless you went out of your way to try very hard.

I am personally not offended with ANY name i have seen yet, however i am a 22 year old Marine. I have seen younger people play here, or parents let their children play here. Granted they should take responsibility for what their children see... But in the same sense, the server should be a more mature atmosphere. Meaning not naming your characters like you're a dumb ass.

Its not hard to get your name changed either, all you gotta do is make the attempt. That simple

People see a name they they don't like and they post and want it changed. Hating on people who post pics of stupid names isn't going to do anything and putting comments like "chill out" isn't going to do anything because it's up to Hunter in the end if that person keeps his name or not, trying to bash someone like Reed isn't going to change Hunters rules or oppinion. Obviously some people don't like people running around with names like that so something needs to happen. Hopefully just a name change and a warning.

Hey buffer you been trolling all the boards I been trolling (I just dont always post) So what asstastic server are you playing on atm?
I got sick of the fucking drama and bullshit on P99 so I am taking a break from it until kunark.

Mostly here on my Pally/Druid/Bard atm. But i jump onto SoD sometimes with my 2nd wizard to see what's not screwed up. I pretty much gave up on P99 atm, too.  >:(

Anyone from the UK can clarify exactly what Tosser means ? :)P

<raises hand>   I can, but keeping mouth shut  :P

This thread has some of the most creative flaming I've seen in years. Great entertainment. I think Xiggie has my favorite flame in here somewhere. Definitely in my top 10 ever list.

Now all the thread needs is someone to post a screenshot of Hunter, and we can consider it completely derailed.

Happy Monday.

LOL! I was going to make a comment on that...but i thought for half a minute that it could have an alternate meaning as well. :)

I wonder if I can get Hunter to edit my title under my name, (Sr. Member) to Top 10 Flamer.

Ok so maybe Tosser has a meaning i didnt know about, granted i love the guy... but maybe his name is in question as well. Forgive my U.S. 'ness. I didnt know it meant something in the U.K.

Also, sign me up for that too Xiggie. Custom forum title would be fun

It was a joke post, "I dont think it means what he thinks it means" Inconcievable!

Tosser in the UK and most of Europe means.

•a general insult; JERK; ASS-HOLE.
Literally: one who masturbates. See toss.
"That guy is always bugging me. He's such a tosser!"
More words meaning: to masturbate
More words meaning: uncool person, jerk, asshole (general insults - list of)

I laughed when i first saw this as "i did think it means what he thinks it means" and why would anyone want to be such!!

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And obviously his name doesnt bother anyone considering he has been on this server for quite some time and has a fan base  :D. So really what are you trying to accomplish by searching for definitions of his name are you running out of people to post about ? Perhaps Gencat is next because as Ezry once said to him it was a mix between genitals and cats do you find that offensive?  ::) Just get off it already and let this thread die there are plenty of names out there that have alterior meanings and were probably made on purpose are you going to go to the web dictionary to look up every name you see and post here if it has some offensive description?

I mean come on if your offended by the name Tosser perhaps you should go play Hello Kitty Online  ::)

As i put m8, this was a humour post, hardly incinuating anything by it. How about you dont read the post if it bothers you. The last intent on my mind was any comeback to Tosser, which of course there wont be. I hardly had to go searching for definitions of names, Tosser in the UK is as widley used as shit or other bad words.

Dont take everything so literally, just a bit of banter. I like Tosser, he killed a few things for me when I was a newbling. Names that are "slang" in a particular country dont mean jack.

I think the original intent of this thread has been derailed quite badly.

It is meant for /ooc message that are against policy set by Hunter, as well names/ anything else that are considered "gray area"

It is not meant for "well my name could mean this...." or "well if you rearrange my name and combine it with 3 letters from my surname you could get..."

Gencat, your name would take quite a stretch to consider offensive. Aside from old EF and Vendetta folks who were around when Ezry used to log in back in the day... No one would have thought Gencat could mean anything like that lol

Im talking about names i've posted. They are without a shadow of doubt meant to be for "shock value". Hunter just needs to either say "Hey i dont care about names, go ahead and name yourself whatever you want" and i would completely forget this thread existed.

So if Hunter would please either read this and leave a comment, or something to either lay this to rest OR encourage the policing.

Haha well sorry Portis is my natural reaction to defend Tosser considering he is ohmahgawd so hawt  :o

True statement indeed. Though he hasn't been on as often lately due to new RL stuff

No harm no foul m8, Tosser is a nice guy and it shows when people do jump to his defence.  ;D

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All I have to say is my Necro (Touchmybones) got renamed before he hit 70 (20min or so) and yet this guy is still running around.

/sigh

Hmmm ..

This thread makes me really wish I'd saved my old screenshots. There was a time in my EQ past where I had to change names. A sampling of some of those I came across...

Yourmom (I stumbled on his corpse outside of Unrest...he was a naked troll. We LOL'd)
Gotherpes Fromyou
Eqstolemyboyfriend
Tunarescunt (this one tried spamming the name filter with variations of this. I let this through so I could suspend his account)
Bisexuelf (she actually threatened me with a lawsuit for changing her name)

...and there were many that tried to pass through the filter that were way way worse. By the end of my SOE career, I just rolled my eyes and went with it.

Thank god there is light at the end of this tunnel :

Follow :

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=587.msg8021;topicseen#new (http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=587.msg8021;topicseen#new)

meh i dont really find anything offensive from Yourmom and Eqstolemyboyfriend the last is pretty much a lol factor and id want to be friends with that person  :D

Those were giggled at, but made to change. After 3 and a half years, you run into so many bad ones...obviously some worse than others. Now, I just roll my eyes and decide to never interact with that person. It's no longer my job to be the babysitter. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and in a virtual game like this, your first impression is often made by name alone.

Amen tabs, a-freaking men

BAM, justification. Now that it can be recognized as a legit rule this thread has meaning again. Fuck all the non believers!

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=587.msg8035;topicseen#new (http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=587.msg8035;topicseen#new)

I zoned into Velk to fine two people in it. I made my way to the castle to farm gems when i find one person there. Darkbane. This is how it plays out.

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When all else fails, its good to know we can always fall back on Your Mama jokes :).

Ahh that just is silly talk the castle isnt a camp.  Good lord people just share my god have none of us learned anything as children?  Half the fun here in this game is making freinds and meeting new cool people.  There are other places to find gems and cash, one being seb, the other being pogrowth if you attack tunare and let her beat on you she calla her woodland buddies to you, then bam! Bambi's mommy and Bambi are yours for the pickins.  Qvic drops lots of gems, hmmm where else can one make lots of cash?

I've been begging for a velks instance for weeks. As the need for plat goes up, so does the use of velks castle.

You seem to know the rules better than Darkbane. If you didn't pull more than 10 you are within the rules. By rights, he should be disciplined for his foul language.

Here's an idea: Offer an instanced velks for 50k plat.

That and for stealing a great guild's name!!

Thats it.....gonna make a new guild callled "Afterbirth"

/vomit

...

This guy (Jimmag) KS the metal melter (ldon 4 boss).
I was STANDING on his spawn.  Nobody else in the room.
(Gell is my paladin)

Boss spawned, I attacked it.  Got him to about 75-80%, all of a sudden his hps is going down WAY faster than it should with a 2.5 paladin..
it dies, I try to loot.. WTF???

He also has a cleric named... Jimcler..  

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(names blanked to protect the innocent...)

WEEE another one for the list "Ohgmus"

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Last picture doesn't really seem to show anything that I could see being ban worthy... More of it would be based off your word than what I can see from that picture. Not saying he didn't KS, but can't say that it shows that he did.

The editted out parts also hurt the picture more than 'protect the innocent' in my opinion.

Believe me if I had fraps running I would post a video, but I've never felt like I needed it before today.

This is twice I had people engage and KS a mob (a 2.5 paladin, not exactly a DPS machine) that not only was I at the spawn site first, waiting for it to spawn, for a GOOD 5-10 minutes, with NOBODY else ANYWHERE near it, AND I engaged it within 2 SECONDS of it spawning, AND I was actively killing it, it was CLEARLY attacking and fighting and had taken a GOOD % of damage before they engaged.

Make NO mistake here, these people blatantly, willfully and purposefully KS-ed me, and I just can't sit here and let them get away with it. 

If it's my word against theirs, hell I will take that challenge. I will stake my impeccible reputation on this server against theirs ANY day.

The thing is,  in LDON there is this "race to the boss" mentality.  I have been clearing trash literally 10 feet away from a boss, as close as you can get without aggro'ing it basically, getting ready to kill it, and had people run in and kill the boss.  I didn't complain about that.  Hey if it's a race then whatever, I guess I lost.  I think it's a total DOUCHE move, but if that's how the majority want to play it... fine.  It's crowded in there, and everyone has to race to kill stuff.  I guess that's the way it's gonna be until we get instances in there...   I've been guilty of racing myself, only I TRY to be fair, especially to newer players who are obviously progressing in LDON for the first time, and not run over them to get to a boss they are less than 1 minute away from..  And I'll always let people loot pages, and other stuff that I don't need. And I do NOT KS people, ever!  Even still, @#$% happens and sometimes people get upset.  I'll take the heat if I pissed someone off, and I will usually apologize, if they are willing to be reasonable about it... I can be perfectly reasonable too.   I mean it's a game I play to have fun, not get all worked up over some fake pretend "loot"...  But these 2 incidents were just not acceptable, this wasn't "racing" this wasn't "oops I didn't see you", this wasn't "we both got here about the same time"..  NO way, this was just KSing plain and simple.

What happened to people these days? You'll be grinding exp somewhere like mistmoore or dulak holding a obvious camp of a room or boat and people shanghai the place. When you approach them about it they act like they were there first and rant on about their fraps and SS that so greatly incriminates the person there first defending a camp? Seen this happen like 5 times today, QQ aside what happened to rationality?

I'll be looking for your people's grand mound of evidence, hope you are a master of EQ film editing.

Looking forward to the show.
Fissure SunderFang

Sorry Walk I didnt mean to make it sound like I was attacking your word, I just meant that based off the 2nd picture it was hard to really judge anything wrong. I also didn't mean that some won't trust your word because you editted the pictures, but just that in general, I find an un-editted photo easier to work with than something that has been touched, even if its something simple and harmless.

Again, nothing against you, just general notes I made myself.

I can verify what Walk is talking about. I've had a couple of encounters with this Jimmag guy and his various "Jimtoons" over the last 2-3 weeks.

I was camping a PGT at the bottom of ramp standing right in front of the spawn point when this guy walks up and gets in front of me, lol I mean like right between me and where this thing spawns. He ignored my says and tells. Instead of battling with this guy over a spawn I just left and got the PGT at the other spawn.

Later that week I was killing a named Qvic mob and actually had to lock the corpse for the person I was helping cause this Jimmag vulture was trying to ninja loot it from us within minutes of it being killed. I literally said to him "Dude, get away from the corpse" and luckily he left.

One of these Jimtoons was the topic of an OOC chat two weeks ago for KSing a fishbone earring right out from under another player.

Turn fraps on (or http://camstudio.org/ for free unlimited video length) and then log in a pocket mage and coth him away from it. Then dare him to try in get you in trouble about it.

I see Balthor has taught you well Xiggie.

Honestly I don't expect anyone to get banned based on these pics or my "word" alone, but if other people are made aware of these folks now maybe they will be watched more carefully and eventually get caught in the act.  Or maybe it will even scare them "straight"...  lol.  Either way works!

As far as "camps" in Dulak or MM I've never really heard of that sorry... it's pretty much first come first served there, exception is MAYBE the bosses, or like the Advisor robe in MM.  Of course the golden rule applies too (play nice and don't grief).

Sometimes coming here to the boards about something and letting the community know about it is nearly as powerful as a ban.

I agree, I was skrewed out of 100k by a guy named steroids... I made a post, let a few others know, and i haven't seen him on in weeks.


Boo yaa

That is a prime example of reputation being the best gear you can put on your toons.

Exactly  :'( lmao

I can't believe people are complaining about a name.  If it offends you, turn off the names.  If you don't like it, don't look at it.  Kids are going to make stupid names all the time. 

The way I deal with names like that is to ignore the person.  I don't respond to any of his/her posts, don't offer to help them and never buff them. 

Just remember, if something offends you, it's no big deal.  It's not like anything bad is going to happen.  It's not like if you're offended, you're going to wake up with leprosy.  Just ignore it and move on. 

Hunter has more important things to do then worry about a name offending you.

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Read the thread before spewing your worthless opinion. Over and over and OVER again people say this crap and are corrected... YES in this very thread.

Let me recap.

It's a PG server.

Hunter takes action against vulgarity and is supported by the community for doing so. That's why this thread is here.

If Hunter let any jack-hole come here and name their char anything they want this server would not be the top green server.

So if it's vulgar in your opinion, it should be changed/banned? 
Sorry God, didn't know you posted here. /roll eyes

You can roll your eyes and try to label someone a holier than thou all you want, it is against the rules. If you don't like it, go back to the pvp server.

I know you were being sarcastic about the God Comment - but you are actually right. God does post here under the Alias Hunter.

Xiggie is just his son, Jesus.

Kiss-Ass-Meter

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Dont worry Danyelle you can be the Archangel Gabriel.

Troll troll go away.

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Hunter decides. Not God. Not Jesus. Not me.

WOOT! Never been a troll before.  Unless someone used a clicky illusion on me.

I wasn't aware of the troll standards.  Not reading through 12 pages of dribble makes one a troll.  Got it.  /whew

gotta love to be threatened by a ranger called Lamer with his twink Niqqa

>ok Time to move on before I follow u and KS u everytime
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Sadly I take my time and it's easy to be ksed :(

 >:( >:( >:( >:(

No Class at all

That's pretty sick. Has the ring some someone who comes from a pvp server.

This guy is a bad apple and is racist towards humans and dwarves, especially ones named Balthor.

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Balthor can't help his plight. You know we got it right Gnaughty, high fives.

Interesting gentleman from PoFire.

"Smashing Vag_like_its_my_job"

I assume his owner is Skegefucle from Vantage given he was powerleveling what I assume was his new toon in pofire.

Certain people posting in this thread need to get out more. And see that the world expands beyond their little scheming madness where every little hint of non-christianic way of life is a grave insult.

Like Tab, I have similar experiences. I've been a Guide on live servers for 3 1/2 years and I've seen pretty much everything the EQ servers could throw at us. From funny, derogatory, flaming, offensive, ridiculous or plain wrong words used in names, surnames or conjunction of both.

Just to add a bit to the discussion of what seems offensive to one person and totally normal to another, I'll post a joke as a reference:

An Eastern European was visiting England and went to a restaurant. He was ordering food and he couldn't find a word for "rare", due to his poor English, so he asked the waiter "Could I have a bloody steak?" and had the waiter reply "Not a problem, sir. Would you like some fucking potatoes as well?"

The general consensus of the server is that the names on this list are break the naming policy that Hunter has in place. Sure, there are some people that aren't offended, but the mass majority opinion trumps the select few.

Slyminx your story is bullshit, nice try.
Love gnaughty the racist gnome.
Wtf is up with those clowns in Vantage?
One or two has been decent to me with all my /auc wtb, but there has been a few of them that fall into the "wtf retarded" category.

I agree with Slyminx. Some people have too much time on their hands.

From time to time these objections always pop up.

Folks think people need to lighten up and develop a sense of humor.

While that is probably true in some cases, it's not relevant to the issue.

Hunter wants the server PG.  Names, OOC, whatever.  If there's something you're going to need to explain to your 12 year old, it's probably not acceptable.

Hunter has further asked that the community work to police itself.  Fraps and screenshot being the best tools to do this.

You don't have to agree with Hunter's rules, but it's his server so you do have to play by them.  If someone thinks there is a violation of the rules and posts it, it's Hunter's decision to take action or not.  Calling out those who are just doing what he's asked us to do is counter productive.

First of all, my "story" isn't bullcrap.
Second, I think it's offensive that I'm being called a "clown" by you just because I'm in Vantage.

As per rules of the server:

 
I consider someone calling me a clown on a public forum offensive and hateful.

If there's any justice in the world, Hunter will ban you just for that.

You are here ---> Rants and Flames No rules in here. Complain about anything!

The server and the forums are two different things.

Maybe you need to get out more. <----- Sorry coudn't help it  ;D

If you really think Hunter who works 70 hours a week and does this on his free time is going to take the time to Ban him for calling you a clown, that's naive of you.

I didnt take Balthor as offending.  It is just that all the time we have people who come to these forums and start talking about how we need not be so harsh.  So I direct you to Gantrathor's post.


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Saying your offended just so you can get someone banned will sooner get you banned for being an idiot.

USE COMMON SENSE
Just because I haven't listed a rule, doesn't mean you can't get banned for a certain action. Use your head, You know right and wrong. Don't be an idiot or you'll get banned.

And yes, I have seen people banned for this. It is easy to see that most people on this server completely agree with the purpose of this thread. Don't buck the system, you're doing nothing but ruining your own reputation.

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yeah and all his alts he kept running off with.. IP kick plz

Also doing this with the name Serr

I am pretty sure this is the same guy switching to different toons. This idiot really needs to get ip banned. The offending text is in color. From what I understand this is not his first incident and is still go on now.

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Good riddance

Makes me wonder who would go to such a length to write up all the macro's for that. I mean, I can sort of get the Nerdrage /ooc SUCK MY COCK HUNTER spam, it's one button that you keep mashing or create an infinite loop for in mq2, easy, fast and gets your stupid white trash ass banned pretty fast.

But creating an entire rap battle in ooc, complete with rhyme? Even if it's copied, that's still a lot more manual work than I'd expect a stupid idiot like this to have the energy to complete.

Also, Niklirt sounds familiar and doesnt sound like someone I had issues with - either it's similar to a name of someone else, or we might need to consider account hacking here.

Edit: Kthxbye, [Gollem] And never COME BACK! [/Gollem]

Please see quote below signature picture for response.

You are either extremely retarded or extremely retarded.  Your adolescent spasm won't even be remembered next to the likes of Rickross and Grukk. 

And yet Trilkin you are still here trolling the forums...thought you were taking your toys and leaving.

Seriously people? I mean like come on..... it's just a game, and if you don't like what someone is doing, then just ignore it! I believe that is what they added the /ignore <name here> command for is it not? As far as I know, Xiggie and a couple other people are the only ones making a big stink about Niklirt. I understand the stuff about offensive names, but a guy is just to have some fun and make the game a little more fun for everyone else as well. Sure, the delivery might not be thought out too well, but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds Nik's little OOC things amusing. Correct me if I am wrong, but if this is about the swearing, there is a bad word filter as well.....

There's rules against spamming.
There's rules against swearing (excessively).
There's rules against racism/hate speech.
There's rules against being a complete and utter tool.

He broke pretty much all of them.

You can /ignore him and I did, but it gets a little annoying when you have 5-6 boxes online, and as soon as you get them all entered he's off making a new character to spam some more with.

Would like to ask people to remember not to feed the trolls.  That's what they want, attention.  Don't give them what they want...  Thank you, and thanks Hunter.

+1
Walk2k

It's been hashed many times.. it's also not like the ruleset is hard to follow if we lean easy to 1 rule the next will be a millions inches....

Play nice.

Get in vent or a personal chat channel if you want to go crazy in game with tourettes.

I would like to say that I totally understand where you guys are coming from, I just totally had a brain fart and reread the rules. lol forgot about those rules :/

If someone wants to be a completely racist ass, they can keep it in guild chat.
once its in OOC, it becomes subject to the server rules which mentioned previously, all were broken.
Not to mention, even if it were amusing, It makes the server as a whole look bad to new players
When I came here, I didn't see that kinda chat for a good long while (or at least never noticed it)
Not til i was already invested into the server did I see it, thus the creation of this thread
So yeah, imagine if you had kids who wanted to "watch mommy or daddy play games" and bam, all this poppin up on your screen
New players are the same, if they see people acting like idiots in OOC they'll either not give the server a chance, or end up like them thinking its acceptable here.

I turned off OOC a long time ago because it was a lot like "Barrens Chat"...

I am not saying I think people should be able to say what they want in public channels.  What I am saying is that if you have a young child who "likes to watch mommy or daddy play games" I think that ALL of the responsibility to keep that activity safe and enjoyable falls on YOU.  Turn off public chat channels on your client and you never need to worry about the morons.

I don't think anyone should have to turn off ooc to shield themselves or their kids from someone wanting to be an idiot. I have no kids. I don't want to put up with that crap in ooc and per the rules I don't have to.  Part of playing an MMORPG is the online community. Turning off ooc partially defeats that.

This isn't 'Nam, there are rules.

I am not saying you should have to turn off OOC.  What I am saying is that parents have to take responsibility for what their kids see/hear/experience.  If there is a chance that someone will go postal in OOC it is entirely the parents responsibility to prevent their kids from seeing it...

Now, that being said, I appreciate the banning of these social outcasts as much as the next person.  I just don't want people letting their kids watch the chat hoping that nobody will break the rules and complaining that their kids are getting hurt when someone does...

You could argue that actively policing the OOC and advocating for a strict OOC language policy be enforced is their way of ensuring that their kids are not exposed to filthy language.  I'm just saying that if your argument is against the parents not doing enough, then don't disregard that the parents who are voicing their opinion aren't doing just what you are suggesting they should do.

Its not just the kids, it was an example
For good social order, don't be an ass in OOC. Period
There isn't really a gray area here. You're either following the rules or you are not.
If you are not, then expect repercussions and to be highlighted by people in the community

*note to all* I have a tendency to come off as attacking specific people, This is completely unintentional unless I am specifically using your name and talking at you =p
So don't get offended or think I'm talking about you please

(http://i55.tinypic.com/10x7adx.jpg) is that offensive? if so..... you know what to do.

That's not offensive, that's just an advertisement...  ::)

Saw so many horribly bad names since i've come back. Figured I'd give it a week before i start blowing up a thread somewhere. Wish i could change the name of this one to something like "People who need to be Banned/ Name Nerfed"

Why is it everytime, and i mean everytime, i see Xiggie, walk2k or Reed's (and im sorry if im forgetting others offhand) post's, that I smile ear to ear, because you guys are so right on 90% of the time. Even if it is pertaining ot me and i dont like what i read, I know after a few min, you are right.

I love seeing "this isn't NAM, we have rules" lmfao i really am when i read it. Yeah, the rules we have are there for a reason. Notch up every comment about cussing and totally tasteless convo in ooc. It gets incresasingly old, the more we see it.

And I do know for a fact, it is not, the old school players that are 30-50 yrs old. Now i sound like Rostam, omfg i do lol. But its true, i can almost put all i have on the fact that the ones doing sick obsenities in ooc are juvenial in age, or in mind.

It jsut makes the place as  a whole alot more enjoyable guys/gals, when we dont have to be forced to watch what you feel is an awesome rap or sick joke.
-Lightblade

well i have a character that i've had forever and it's name is Orgasmic, but if I got to choose the name i'd be ok with something else ;)

Depends on who takes action first really. If Hunter finds ya online, GD mat just ninja change your name. If you email him saying something like "hey, mind changing char X name to soandso?" He would likely see you trying to uphold the rules he has in place, and give you what you request.

im in ldon6 instance1 and i do a /zone check and see belland,kervak and geotrey so figure its just us 4 should be some mobs to share but there is nothing up? i then see belland pulling whole zone as it repops..rinse and repeat 3 times.he`s was pulling everything from named1 to named2 so figure im here he will stop but he doesnt. i give him a nice tell saying he had  pulled a little more then the 10mob rule. he comes back at me that im trainbing him trying to get him on fraps to ban him.
im like ok whatever. he then keeps going on that it was my trains and i follow him with fraps all the time just to ban him.
now im a war with duel 4.0 and firestrikes if i ran a train #1 the mobs would be hitting me not him,2nd if a swing my swords even 1x agro is all over me and i would probly drop 1/2 the train.
he says he has me on fraps but i have the ss i took of him.its people like him that need to get banned.i try and just give him a heads up cause the whole zone is a bit much to be pulling and he comes back with that bs.

post your fraps belland ide love to see me training the whole zone on you. im posting mine

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and i know ss of maps are worthless but it just gives you guys a heads up what he was doing. sorry for all the pics to just this guy tried to blame me when i was just being nice say hey calm down

I'd like to see that.  ;)

Anyhow, it sounds like you did the right thing by waiting, then sending him a tell. That was very polite of you, and he should've responded in kind.

On an unrelated note, I was in-game yesterday and saw this guy. What do you think? Offensive or no?

http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Sodomize
http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Sodomized
http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Sodomizer

Surprize Buttsechs got banned.
Sodomise/r/d should be no different.

I vote for offensive!

I vote for offensive esp when I tried to tell him he should change name or delete before he gets banned, freaked out. 


Master of the Fich....

Funny how someone who uses a british slang for "dickhead" and has a last name of "cheese" seems to be acting like one there.

Can't believe this one is still around either

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Xig, how did you do that with your pic if you don't mind me asking. I have Photoshop and such, but don't mess with it all that much. Would save me time in SSing if i didn't have to cut out chat boxes and such =p

What psy said. I use acdsee and it is labeled Vignette.

thanks for the info, nice to learn a little something new

This directed to Spartan... I'm not gonna go there on the +10rule cause we all do it and try not to get caught. And you would be in the right for sc'in that many mobs and the crap response you got.

My question is this......

How in the F*** do you people paly with your screen that cluttered up but boxes etc...?

I lay all my bars and boxes out so my screen is free for view of mobs, always puzzled me how people even loot, with that many damn things all over the screen!

Nothing but love for ya both, keep on gaming, even with that fluster cluck of UI garbage :)

-Lightblade

LOL yea it is quite cluttered. I play with my UI like this,and of couse w/o Inventory Open

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So sitting in Sro for 90 mins waiting for a turn at Terror and some of our fellow players show us how they own what they take regardless of who was there first.

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hmm never knew Hunter Ok'd anything other than map, stick and the stone combine macro for mq2. Did I miss where he posted it was ok to use the casting and melee parts of it?

If you're sitting there for 90 minutes already, how come you didn't have a kill yet?

I would guess there was someone in line in front of him and he waited.

That said, the screenshot makes no sense to me as far as pointing out who cut the line.

You know, I joke around prolly more than most. But when you put your stuff out here like this in a public and advertising way your just inviting a ban. I hope this person gets ip banned. Picture also sent to Hunters email.

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The phrase white power is, was, and will always be a reference to a racial group. I realize that doesn't fit into your plans of wanting to insult me but a simple search of yahoo or any other search engine yeilds nothing about final fantasy.

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7hqBvINNIB0A8y9XNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGFvAzEEZnIDeWZwLXQtOTYzBGhvc3RwdmlkA3hyVFMzRW9HN3Y1aGxXWC5UTjVKa1FqWFJMMm0uMDJEdklFQUR5QkwEbl9ncHMDMTAEbl92cHMDMARvcmlnaW4Dc3JwBHF1ZXJ5AyJ3aGl0ZSBwb3dlciIEc2FvAzEEdnRlc3RpZANBQ0JZMDc-?p=%22white+power%22&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-963

You need a hobby besides trolling my posts. Leave me alone ya freak.

Xiggie, are you black?

Nope. Don't see where that matters anyway though. Having a problem with prejudice phrases has is not race specific.

I agree with Xiggie on this one,  the name is racist and  has no place one EZ server.....

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doh, you beat me to it man. my bro distracted me with cod zombies

Lol the "~" on each end.  Nice touch.

Wtf with all that racist crap on EZ?  Who in their right mind would log in to an EQ EMU server (lol) and spam hate vs black people?  Besides, I don't get it.  In Europe, lots of people hate black people or arabian people or whatever, but I don't see those outbursts of primal hate anywhere on european web sites etc.

It's an unfortunate side effect of America's Civil rights to free speech. People grow up thinking they can say whatever they want to whoever they want without consequences. Until they get the crap beat out of them, or arrested for racist hate crimes.
Usually thoes vomiting out that kind of garbage are people with little control over there own lives, too stupid to make there own decisions. So they use angering other people to make themselves feel better.
But what they actually need is a good ass kicking!

Frickin awesome is all i gotta say Trog. Especially "get the crap beat out of em". I like meeting people like them and letting them run their mouth for a few seconds. Big pat on the back speaking your mind with conviction in your tone.

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honestly, you're offended by the word nuts? I wish there was a rule for joining the server - you must be atleast this ________ mature to play this server. c'mon guys don't just try and get folks banned /rolls eyes

Ok...I always laughed at the quote...from superbad...
"I'm flexing nuts. Just fucking come With me on this voyage... "
It always made me laugh. Superbad is rated (R).
Here's what it means...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Flex%20Nuts

I changed my shaman's surname to "Takeajokenoob" for you.  FFS, go find something constructive to do.

So what you are saying is you are flexing nuts on him? Lol, how appropriate.

 Is that similar to Kegel exercises? Will I see progress in days or weeks? Maybe a work out video to got with it? A before and after shot...

lol

I would like to report the toon who took this screenshot, Everquestd. Its an obvious innuendo to sexual transmitted diseases and offensive.

Gross, now my kids can't play eq cause I dont' want them exposed to that filth.

thanks for your time
Bozac

p.s. nuts FTW

LOL!!!

Not saying it's offensive to me, but isn't the name "Gook" borderline offensive?

well its considered a rasist word

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Gook

gook    

–noun Slang: Disparaging and Offensive .

1.a native of Southeast Asia or the South Pacific, especially when a member of an enemy military force.

2.any dark-skinned foreigner, especially one from the Middle East.

3.anyone who is offensive to others because of stupidity, coarseness, etc.

I was wondering when that name would generate more attention. Send hunter a message about it. I was actually hoping to give the person more time to get end game and then loose all that stuff cause they chose a racist name.

gook    

–noun Informal .
1. guck.
2. makeup, especially when thickly applied: She looks ridiculous with all that gook around her eyes.
Origin: expressive word, perhaps blend of goo  and muck; compare guck

Oh i am so sure he was referring to makeup when he made that toon.

I actually spoke to the toon that Gook and the others were /stick-ed to in PoDragons yesterday, telling her it would be a good idea to e-mail hunter before someone reports the name as offensive and ask for a change. Might be shown more leniency if asked by the owner rathr than from a 3rd random person.

As far as I got from the conversation, she didn't know it was a slandering racist word. So personally, I'll just wait till Hunter resolves the issue.

You'd seriously have to have been living under a rock your whole life to not know "Gook" is a racial slur.  Come on now.

could be young....my 11 and 12 yr old necie and nephew dont know the term *which is a good thing*

Maybe, but when I was that age I was watching movies like Platoon where there is definitely a hefty dose of the term being used, lol. 

One of my alts is the said character "Gook". I really had no idea that it was a derogatory slang word when I made the character. Later as Slyminx said they had told me about the meaning behind it, and at that point I did email Hunter to see if he could change the name. I had no intentions of offending anyone. As I stated I didnt know it had any type of racist meaning behind it. I really hope Hunter will change the character name for me, so I don't upset anyone with it. Just in case I did offend someone, I do apologize, and I also apologize to anyone in the future who might see it before it gets changed, or banned.  :-\

Also I don't think I live under a rock, but I've never heard the word used other then to describe maybe a smudge, or glop of something. Also I've never seen Platoon, not a huge movie buff.  :P

unless the he is an old Korean or Vietnam vet. i highly doubt this was purposely done to be derogatory. Most people under 30 don't even have a clue that it can be a racial slur.

Wow. Don't know who that is, but it's definitely unacceptable. Will be handled tonight.

Is it cold in the Nexus? She sure is pointy.

This is really a stupid name and doesnt fit to the nice people in House of Strix.


-Teslar

I would like to post for the record, my comment was more out of humor, and that it should not reflect or presume any failure on the house of strix. he is a rogue element and not typical of there guild. There good people.

Thanks for pointing this out to us Trogdorr.  We're in the process of suggesting to the guy who owns that toon to delete it at the first opportunity he gets. 

Really, really poor moment of judgement that hopefully can be easily rectified.

Appologies to any folks who were offended by this.

Peace
Strix 

Just changing the last name should fix it? Bardcore Mutha_Fer? Personally I think the name is funny as hell but he should have been more creative with the f word to keep people for reporting it.

Funny? Yes. Appropriate? Not even close....no amount of "creativiity" makes the use of profanity in names on the server ok.
I find your lack of good reasoning more offencive then the lack of good reasoning shown above.

Yall handled this with class. Bravo.

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I think Mr Blowdaggers is in serious need of a prison style enima

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Opinions?

What a dumbass. Hope he gets banned after getting his 4.0

Heres a winner.
IP Ban please Hunter :D

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Has anyone sent this to Hunter?

 >:(

So the name Therapist would be a bannable offense as well?

I would say depending on the surname. Therapist is an actual word, but if the surname played up the name being The rapist instead of therapist then it would need to be changed or banned in my opinion.

I don't know why people would think that swapping the first letters of an offensive phrase for a name makes it any less offensive.

Another example would be: Funtclaps

Yeah... I don't have a SS of that one, but it spammed Epics a few days ago, and I've seen it in LDoN.

Fun T(hunder) claps?

some people are really into their thunder storms  :P

Cuz before I appropriated my current tank char, I wanted to make a warrior named Therapist DrFreud, with title it would turn out into Veteran Therapist DrFreud :P

So what about the name "Phisting" ? Saw that one the other day ..went something like this:

Phisting says..."skdhfla"
Phisting says..."Oh I can finally talk in ooc now!"
Sickem types.. /who all Phisting
 .... Phisting level 8(field of bone)
Sickem facepalms...

Figured I'd wait till he was a little higher level to post a SS if i saw him to make it suck that much more.
 ;D

A fist isnt exactly a sexual organ. You could make a sexual innuendo out of just about anything so you gotta except a certain level of tolerance.

Before the advent of the sexual ennuendo it was known as fighting probably a good name for a monk. now it stands for " Phisting is when, after your usernames and passwords have been phished, your credit cards are maxed and your bank accounts drained" according to the urban dictionary.

Ahh yes, the urban dictionary.

Really? So you have a problem with Hunters naming rules?

This is a self policing server. I'm pretty sure you're only spouting your crap because you are amongst the people who could be banned for this.
 

Ah yes, this comment from the person spouting that crap in OOC last night. Were you so bored that you had to have a conversation with yourself and pepper it with profanity and vulgarity?

Ok, even if this does not get this person banned or a forced name change I would just like to ask something. What kind of idiot names their self after a produced used to treat a festering cooch? I mean if your 12 then sure, 12 year old boys giggle every time someone even says vegetable because it has a 'v' a 'g' and the same amount of syllables as vagina. I mean really, do you expect to get far in this game with that type of mentality?

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Got another submission for the idiot awards.

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Thanks Xiggie. I don't take screenshots, so I'm glad someone does.

I wonder what it says about a person that these are the names they choose for their main character.

Thanks?

Why would you thank someone for going around being a whistle blower.

I don't know about you but if a GM (Hunter) wanted to tell me I had an innappropiate name I'd have no problem changing it or doing whatever the Gm said needed to be done.  But having people running around thinking they are EZ Police is getting ridiculous.

I mean a 21 page thread of a bunch of little girls taking screen shots trying to get people banned.....I mean if the name really offends you, I am pretty sure they are not always going to be following you around the zone.

What do you do if you see an offensive bumper sticker while driving down the road....do you call the police and whine like a bitch?  There are rules in place for a reason, I understand that, but it's HUNTERS jobs to enforce those rules at his discretion.  I don't think he issued badges to any of you people to run around and try and get people banned.

I realize you got beat up in school alot, and now that you graduated and have a 4.0 or 2 you think it's your turn to get back at the man, but you need to chill and live and let live.

Hunter himself has said the players police ez server. It makes his job easier rather than having to police it himself. Notice how Hunter has not come on this post and told us to shut up? He likes people doing things to help keep the server clean. If you have a problem with Hunters rules, you don't have to play here.

         I for one thank all those that take screen shots or fraps to get rid of those that would break the rules or at very least teach them a lesson. Keep up the great work Xiggie and all those that would do the same.  ;D    As to those that would whine and cry wolf it takes a total of 10 mins to read  Ez rules. How long it takes to understand them well for some its not about a concept of time. If you don't like the rules here move on you'll find enjoyment somewhere else i'm sure the ez community here won't think twice to wave good-bye.



Cracken
~GL of Classic Composers

Quit being a baby you fucking tool

LoL!! Thats all i can say !!!!

How am I being a baby? 
I'm simply stating you don't have to log in with your finger itching on the screen shot or fraps button just hoping you can get someone in trouble out of bordem of your 19 T5 chars. 

If someone truely does something blatantly affecting YOUR gameplay then sure I can see that.  Fraps away, stop it.  But a name?  Really?

Stop trying to get other people in trouble, I'm quite sure Hunter has the small stuff under control.  What he probably needs help with is people training, steal killing, duping, that kind of thing.

clowns

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lol I love how you ride Hunters coat tail at every available chance.

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I think the point he's trying to make is more along the lines of the visceral gratification some people get from reporting, or at least appear to get.

I've seen people gloat over wanting to get someone banned or want to wait until they were fully geared so it would "hurt more".

Although I think he went about stating his opinion in a rather crude way, I can see his point of view. It seems at some times people take too much pleasure in what they think is going to ruin someones day. In a way it seems he is saying it has gone beyond policing to seeing how much you can try and f' someone over due to something that may or may not have little to no true impact on ones gaming experience.

Rules are rules I agree.  And I personally don't have a problem with the rules or following them.

But I do see his point. Although, as I said, he went about it in a very poor manner. Some people tend to take pride in being the cop that writes tickets for jaywalking. I can understand wanting to report someone for training, KS'ing or even perhaps just completely distasteful names. I wouldn't report it seeing as it doesn't really bother me, but I can understand reporting someone named "Botched Abortion" or something, but the constant call for BAN BAN BAN makes it seem a bit eccentric. I could see a name change, character deletion, suspension or combination of any of the above. But the instant resort to BAN is, what I believe invoked so much emotion from him.

Very rarely would I ever call for someone to be banned over a name. I have in the past made jokes about waiting to turn someone over for name changes till the get more geared but in reality I simply wait till people get more geared because quite frankly those with stupid names generally don't stay long. Most people with dumb names quit in their lvl 50's, maybe after they get their 1.5's or 2.0's. I don't go around searching for peoples names but if I encounter them or see someone's name in ooc with the name vigina in it or seayouintea for a name I do look for them. And quite frankly if someone with that stupid of a name gets banned it will make me giggle a little bit. Read through this post. It is littered with people occasionally questioning the rules. Those are what I call high burners. They play loud and hard and fast and then they are gone just as quick as they showed up.

Personally, when I see someone with a bad name, I whisper them and talk with ther person trying for them to see reason why the name would be innapropriate before I go stating the server rules and reporting it with a screenshot.

I kind of feel that maybe not every badwordname is intentionaly fuckwith who wants to offend the entire community and is willing to have the name changed by E-mailing Hunter and admitting to making a mistake.

Such as it is, I'm sure Hunter is also a bit more lenient versus people admitting their lack of rule understanding than those who would just continue as they are and put the entire community on ignore.

That goes out to all you Pudge Facker fans out there.

Oh I agree that a positive attitude I am sure goes a hell of a long way with Hunter. I guess I get a little burnt out with it. I have been playing on this server for about 3 and a half years now, (mid to late january 2008 I think). Most of the time I encounter someone with a name like Hairy Nutz and I send them a friendly tell about how it might be a good idea to request a name chance so they don't loose the stuff they worked for I get a tell back say, "lulz f u choir boy, got I wish this was pvp I would roxor your boxors". So my assumption that those who choose idiot names are immature idiots is based of previous experience.

As for the argument, how does this effect my game play. The immediate effect? Next to none. Beyond irritation it does nothing to me to see someone named Bucketsofcum. There are those who have children or maybe even are children but lets go beyond that. If left unchecked, it brings an element to this server that is usually reserved for WoW and pvp servers. In the past when things like this and including this have been left unchecked drama spikes. Disrespect spikes. Kill stealing spikes. Training others spikes. These are all things that I have seen happen on EZ from time to time. I am sure Hunter has seen the same thing. Rules like this are in place for a reason.

Well it appears he is more elegant with his wording than i was but this is exactly what I was trying to get accross.  It just wears me out to come on the forums and find WHOLE ENTIRE sections on people just trying to get people banned. 
As far as following the rules?  I am still playing on the server, don't have near the ammount of gear some of you have, but I do alright.  I obviously follow the rules.  And YES I have e-mailed hunter once about a guy that was continuously just training the hell out of a custom zone taking everything from everyone else.  Took the appropriate screen shots/fraps and it was taken care of......
I didn't come on the forums and blast his reputation by spewing my opinion or bringing the fact that maybe he was having a bad da yand just wanted to kill shit.  All i see on here is "Person X" stole my shit what a liar, then "Person Y" I didn't steal anything he's the liar blah blah
Then people form their warped opinions off poorly based facts. 

This is just a breeding ground for name slander and ill informed people, why not just take your fraps/screen shot and send it to Hunter? 
Does "self policing server" also mean you bitch and moan and run someones name thru the dirt that makes a mistake? 
Oh does "self policing server" also mean that EVERY OTHER SENTENCE out of your mouth is "Oh so yuo have a problem with Hunters rules then good bye"
jeez

Word of advice. Just stop with posts like these. You are not going to convince anyone you are right or to see your view point. Trust me. It is futile to try. I mean if you want to rant this is the place to do it, knock yourself out. But if you truly think you are going to get people to side with you once their mind is made up, it isnt going to happen.


Just a friendly piece of advice. Do with it as you will.

You're probably right.

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It's a player policed server. I wonder why there's a 'omg whole thread of people getting others banned'. We have so many bad mannered people breaking rules there needed to be a public forum to make them known in and it works. However as this summer shows once again the influx inflates the asshat factor way past tolerance levels. There's no way for hunter to deal with each and every annoying person who logs in. That in itself would be a 168hr/week job.
Now tell me how out of line we are for doing our job. Posting bad behavior of people on the server WE Police. And most don't even go the extra step of having fraps loaded which would in most cases lead to a ban.

 So this thread was born of that,which your subject to public display of your actions.Don't expect us to make it easy for you. Oh yes, they will all know your name, and how much of an ass you are when you end up here.

 Accept your consequence of your actions. Just because you think somethings 'cool' does not mean its acceptable on this server.   Protecting the integrity of the server gets out of hand with all the flaming by critically misinformed and under-informed people, many I have seen post in this thread. But they keep trying, striving to clean up the zones of Ks'ing train pullers who "FU Noob" at any tell they get which does'nt benefit them.It's not easy let me tell you.
 We will still be here when the novelty of spamming ooc with your nonsense and hate gets boring and you've told your last wank joke and made your last vagtastically named toons - and you move on.  So don't be surprised For our distaste. We've seen your kinds before...

LOL!! @ "vagtastically named toons" Awesome new word im gonna use on a daylie basis. Thanks Trog!!

Well said Trog.

there seems to be a very warped sense of why I'm here.

Everyone keeps saying "if you don't like it move on" or "you come and go"

I follow the rules and have made it clear that I have found it neccessary to fraps/screenshot an offense that I felt was directly related to the gameplay of myself and others where we were hunting.

As far as your spotless reputation Xiggie, I didn't come here blasting you saying your a bad person.  I simply stated that you don't need to go playing robo-cop on EZ server.  Self policing server......yes.  I understand the moment that was said by hunter you all grew invisible badges and ran around screen shoting and such.

Do i like EZ server?  Hell ya I do.  Do I want it to be a great place to play and have fun.  Duh.  Do I spend countless hours talking to friends I've made while farming the ridiculous charms.  Yes.  I'm just trying put my insight on things.

This really wasn't meant to be a personal attack on any ONE person =)  however if you saw it as that, perhaps that's something to think about.

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Realize I might be wrong?  So because Xiggies opinion is different then mine I must be wrong?  This is EXACTLY what i'm talking about bro.  I don't have to agree with you man, it's the liberty we all share.  Forming our own opinions, but seriously saying I'M wrong because I don't get on your band-wagon is a little insane lol.

Giggity and resolved this in game. I deleted some of my posts to keep things a little more on topic.

Completely agree.  Talked to him ingame and was made aware that EZ doesn't have guides and multiple GM's like P99 so I do understand the self policing thing.

Sorry to bring yet MORE drama to the rants and flames section.....

Hope to see you all in-game.

Chars are Spell, Constantly, and Crackinz

 ;D

See ya in game

(http://images.kuahara.com/spam.bmp)

Maybe he needed a buff? I know i hail the zone guys over and over sometimes when i dont realize im on my other toon and the map is covering the window. But that is excessive.

I know when you die if you get a rez and hail the guy repeated while clicknig on the rez you will be rezzed with full buffs.  I do this almost everytime lol.  that is a bit excessive but I at least do it 10 times everytime I accept rez lol.

Don't think that's really hurting anyone.....

If all you're trying to do is get a res with buffs, you don't have to spam...  You can wait for the res box to be on your screen and hit accept, and immediately hail the buff bot...  That being said, how much of a difference is the 2k hp really making?

In most of the higher zones (where the mobs hit for 80k to 100k) i run around self buffed only, Because it doesnt matter buffed or not if they want you dead, You will die.
 

I was really assuming this guy wasn't end-game if he was spamming buffbot.  Just trying to give an example of why he may be doing it.

as far as the 2k hp.....every little bit helps I think.

He is T2/3.

lol oh.  Then he may have just gotten the itch to be annoying for some reason lol.

Would only really bother you if you were hovering around the free buff person though.  i dunno, not a huge deal in my book

Meh, only really annoying if you are reading text or something like that.

Buff bot is pretty good looking, maybe all the clicking is signifying somthing else?

Guy with an idiot Name: "Fapfap Fapfapfapfap".


Please have it changed. Immature and idiotic.

It might be a stupid name, but there is nothing "wrong" with it...  It is not racist, sexist, or otherwise offensive.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fap

It's a direct reference to jacking off

And the dude knew this and thinks it is funny.

/agree

Send it to Hunter in an email and I am sure he will get a visit from the name change fairy or the ban fairy.

What is his email? I PMed him the link to this thread with the SS.

Using urban dictionary as a source has as much credibility has citing wikipedia as a source for a term paper.  It's funny how the server elites are the first ones to cry about someones name.  Whats wrong boys?  Can't have anyone else at your level?  Ego that important to you?  Stop worrying about other people and play the god damn game and enjoy yourself.  And if you can't enjoy yourself because it enrages you to see the guy with the name of Fapfap, then you need to see a therapist. 

Hunter does not check his pm's at all.

the_poet_warrior@hotmail.com

In the subject put EZ EVERQUEST SERVER

Xiggie and Fugitive must be high shcool principals in real life.

How about it is against the damned rules? What is so damn hard to figure that out? Why is that so hard to comprehend? Were the rules written by or for anyone who may or may not be elite? No, they were written by Hunter for the entire server. Need to see a therapist? Wtf man I thought you had more sense than that.

And you must be a middle school drop out.

It's not hard to comprehend.  It's the frequency of you and a few others around that are so quick to jump on the most trivial of shit.  It's not like the guys name was Nigger CockFaggot or anything, for fucks sake.  Hunter needs to spend more time worrying about fixing broken spells and content than worrying about all the emails of people crying over names.  Rules or not, making this shit the forefront of the issues is what pisses me off.

I have been playing on this server for a long time. One thing I have seen for sure, and I am sure this would apply to any game, any server. When you start letting immaturity on a server go unchecked you end up with a generally immature server. This is something I am sure Hunter has seen. I am sure the rule about names is to combat such things. The rules are there for reason.

I agree.  I just don't think something like "Fapfap Fapfapfapfap" is such a horrid offense that it should be treated the same as the more extreme cases.  Whatever, I'm done, rules are rules.  I've always abode by them, so why does it even matter what I think.  Peace.


And by the way Xiggie I didn't mean to specifically target you or anything, just something I've always felt about the naming policy and just felt I needed to get it off my chest.  No ill will meant towards you or Fugi.

Roger that, see you in game.

I like Turtles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

Sigh... Cant even go one 1 day without running into this trash. See attached. I emailed hunter already. This guy should just be banned with names like that. He doesnt even deserve a rename in my opinion.

Hopefully school will start back soon and we wont have to see this as often.

One of the names is kind of blocked but here they are:

"Rubbinon Yourchildren"
"Caressing Yourchildren"

Fapfap is my warrior! I didn't realize that his name had caused so much controversy, lol!

Fapfap, along with all my other characters, doesn't train, doesn't spam ooc, and doesn't ninja other people's mobs in pub. I am truly sorry if the name offends y'all. I personally think something like a name is trivial, and I would argue my warrior's is highly less offensive than "Rubbinon Yourchildren." That being said, totally childish. And I rolled him when I was stoned out of my mind and giggling with a buddy.

In any event, He's QVIC/Tacvi and 3.0 geared, so you're not going to stop seeing him in /whos. I'm not about to delete a toon I've put hours of work into b/c the name offends some portion of the server population. So far I've recieved 0 PMs or e-mails from other players or Hunter.

If Hunter takes serious offense to this, a name change is fine. As you all said, that name is technically against the rules....

-Byronosaurus!

Last I heard from Hunter he was not doing name changes. I believe his exact words were, best to not use it, or face a ban. Saying your excuse is because you were 'stoned out of your mind' is a pretty lame excuse.

It's not an excuse per say. Just explaining myself. If the name is bad enough to warrant a ban of said character then Hunter may do what he wishes about it.

I personally feel that it's not super offensive especially in comparison to some of the others examples I've seen in this thread. But on a self-policed server I guess that opinion is irrelevant.

Xiggie, understand that I feel your point about maintaining a proper maturity level on the server and self-policing and such. If the language of my responses on these forums hasn't done enough to convince you all and Hunter that I can conduct myself as an adult then ban Fapfap. That being said your personal opinion about the validity of my "excuse" is irrelevant. Hunter's the only one w/ a ban stick. And I don't have to justify my naming choices either, I chose to because some of you were offended and I wanted to explain myself. 

Again, I'm sorry to any who were offended. Please don't ban me warrior Hunter! :(

-ByronosaurusRex

This is some of the most childish stuff I've read since my kindergarten reading time. How about instead of all you people bitch, moaning, and complaining about some other toon's name that you see in passing to Hunter - YOU take the initiative to inform whoever in game that their name is offensive, against server policy and warrants a ban. Maybe if more people took this approach to the Naming Policy then we'd see less people that are past Tacvi with offensive names. Or if for whatever reason you find any given name, or find yourself frequently offended by what people name their characters, then turn off PC names and ignore them so you never have to see their name again. Everyone loves the ban stick, and having a GM deal with their problems instead of acting like adults.

This is the official naming policy taken from the EZ server rules - stickied in general discussion.

"NO BAD WORDS
Offensive words in names or public chat will not be tolerated, such as anything sexual, racist, hateful, etc."

The above is extra vague, and may reference anything from genitalia, skin color, to racial slurs and sodomy.

"PLAY NICE AND DON'T GRIEF
Do not harass players thru actions or words. Let them have their mobs, and don't spam them. If try to ruin the game for others, then you'll be removed from the game." - also taken from EZ server rules, stickied in general discussion.

Depending on the interpretation the people proposing that certain names be banned that do not "violate" the naming policy may also be in line for the ban stick as you are ruining the game for others.

"OTHER NOTES

Players that break the rules might get deleveled to level 1, suspended, banned, or have all his accounts banned.

Users police themselves with Fraps since Hunter works a lot of hours IRL. You can find a copy of Fraps very easy on the internet.

Be sure to get your easy to use copy of fraps, and keep the hotkey ready to record people. If your going to down an important boss and feel that a player may grief you, then record the fight. I know videos sizes are huge. If the boss event goes without problems, then just delete that 500 meg file that was created to record it. Users police themselves on here. Screenshots are nice, but hard to prove that someone traveled with a train since screenshots are well, static."

This reinforces my original point - take care of the issue yourself, if you can't solve the problem in game then whine to the GMs about your sensitivity issues.

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=8.0 (http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=8.0)



Here are my character names - please rip me a new asshole.

Sovin Nai
Skwisgaar Skwigelf_Stop_Copies_Me
Galadedrid Damodred_of_the_Light
Blaknuss_B_L_A_C_K_N_U_S_S
Shopsmart_Shop_S_Mart

If anyone has an issue with the names I choose for my toons then please, FOR FUCKS SAKE, have enough decency in yourself to approach ME IN GAME and express your concern/offense/bitching/moaning/complaining so that I can put you on ignore and not waste my time being a kind person to a douche bag.

And on a side note to Xiggie - if you're going to respond to someone who has an issue with source citation - cite your own source lest you appear far less intelligent then I assumed you were.

Nothing beats having the awesome reputation for being responsible for multiple bans on a free server for some petty shit. Grow up. This shit's in Rants and Flames for a reason.

Apparently Kylok speaks for me!

We do play together though, often in the same room, so I guess that explains why he's so heated about it!

I second almost every word he said!

Exclamation points!!!!!

First and foremost how vague is:

There is absolutely nothing vague about that. I mean really you put it in your own post. Fapfap is a clear violation of the rules. Trying to excuse anyone's violation of the rules by blaming other peoples sensitivities is a shitty excuse. My sensitivities have absolutely nothing to do with this. The rules were not put there to accommodate my sensitivities. Read through this thread, other people have tried to pull the vague card and it never works.

Saying I am griefing someone by by reporting/commenting/posting about their naming violation is inventing interpretation of the rule. If that was the case Hunter should ban himself because, really, banning is ruining someones game play. As for the name not violating the rules, I mean, come on, No offensive words, including anything sexual. There is no room for interpretation. Fapfap only has one meaning.

My lack of quoting is because the source is in my email and is in regards to a name change I requested on a character that was given me. How seriously do I take the rules? I have a paladin that was given to me. He has full UC and nearly full T4. I am not going to put the name in here because it doesn't totally belong to me. It would take me a long while to replace this character, I mean come on, a UC'd toon. I don't play that toon. I would love to, but its name violates the naming policy.

Quoted from my email from Hunter:

In regards to my pride in getting people banned, Yes I am proud of that. I have kept a lot of idiots off this server. They either get banned or they find out that's not tolerable. As for posting it here as well as sending it to Hunter, if you don't get banned you get a shitty reputation. From that point you either clean up your act or you leave. Problem solved.

Bucking against Hunters rules does not get you far. Just look through this thread. Some random person will come to the server and challenge the rules or try to interpret them to fit themselves. It never works. As far as growing up. You are telling me that I am immature and you are defending someone with Fapfap as a name? Really? Wow.exe

Well then, since you obviously take this game very seriously and have enough time to care enough about to server to get someone banned over six letters that don't involve any swears and most people don't know the meaning of. Then let's wait and see if Byronosaurus and myself get our accounts banned for ignorance of the law. At least now I know to stay away from Xiggie and Dignatio - that's the whole reason I quit p99. And seeing where this drama is heading makes me want to:

a) quit while I'm ahead and leave you trolls to your bridges.
b) reroll all my characers as Xxxxxxxxxxxa, Xxxxxxxxxxb, Xxxxxxxxc, ad infinitum
c) turn off tells, shout, auction, out of character.

Good job of being the naming police, not so great for server population but hey - seems like it's mostly tiered elitist trying to make life harder for people just trying to have some fun in peace. For the record I have PC names off and pay 0 attention to the other people on the server unless I run into them in an LDoN.

Atm options B and C sound like the most entertaining while A is most probable. Enjoy your private server Xiggie - if you keep your work up you can have it to yourself.

P.S. Be more thorough in your reading if you're going to attempt to verbally spar with me - what I said was : "Depending on the interpretation the people proposing that certain names be banned that do not "violate" the naming policy may also be in line for the ban stick as you are ruining the game for others." So yeah, if Hunter banned someone named Xiggie for having an inappropriate name then yes, he should ban himself.

Also - I would assume that Hunter made the bad word/naming policy worded vaguely, and it is vague despite your personal opinion, so that things of this nature can be left to his discretion. He's judge jury and executioner - our opinions are just from the peanut gallery.

And since I'm on a roll - if you think people with inappropriate names should reroll then delete that T4 UC paladin, even if it isn't completely yours it would still be a lawful, just act that would bring about a more appropriate, mature, and politically correct environment for all of us to enjoy.

I have a toon named Blaknuss named after a Roland Kirk song http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacknuss. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacknuss.) This could be interpreted as racist, though it was hardly intended as such. That's why I'm defending Fapfap, he meant no harm by it, had no idea that people would take it as seriously as it has been and would change the name if it was at all possible. I would assume you might see him with the name Fapfap PleaseDontBanMe when you see him next.

Where does the line get drawn? If I make a toon named Xxxxxxxxxa is that going to be an issue because XXX is a rating for pornography? If I make a female erudite named Badonkadonk will that be grounds for the ban stick? How about Perineum or Labia? I knew a guy a p99 who had a female gnome named Squirting Continuously, though slightly vaguer then Fapfap it is still interpreted as sexual - though nothing ever came of his silly choice in names.  Perhaps I should just stick with names involving using illicit substances since that is clearly not covered in the naming policy - except for the et cetera part...

Furthermore, though Fapfap is indeed considered slang for masturbation on the internet, as no one in their right mind would dare speak such nonsense aloud, it does also have other meanings.

Fap - used as an adjective to describe one who is drunk:

"    * 1599, William Shakespeare, The Merry Wives of Windsor, act I, scene I

          BARDOLPH: Why, sir, for my part, I say the gentleman had drunk himself out of his five sentences.
          EVANS: It is his 'five senses'; fie, what the ignorance is!
          BARDOLPH: And being fap, sir, was, as they say, cashier'd; and so conclusions passed the careires." - http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fap (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fap)

Anyone have a list of names that people have been banned for? That would be a interesting sight to see.

Stop please I can't take the crying

...and people wonder why I don't play in the summer season.....

Read the rules. It's a player policed server.
If that bothers you so much, find someplace else to be. your crying like a child will not change anything about it. Suck it up and deal.

Kylok -

You are putting way too much time into this. Stop trying so hard. This is basic common sense. You sound like a kid being told the rules and wanting to rebel about it. Ironic how you are calling us kids for policing when you are acting like a typical teen.


Read the rules and apply the rules when creating a character. It is basic COMMON SENSE not to name your character FAPFAP or JACKING OFF or JERKOFF or MASTURBATING. They all mean the same thing.

Does the name offend me? No it doesn't but I choose to invest my time into a server that has a little pride about itself. I dont want to run around the game and see names like this. It brings me back to reality which I am trying to escape from for 1hr every other day. I feel like im playing a game with a bunch of kids that cant follow simple rules.

Also I want to comment about your suggestion of approaching the player in game and talking to him about their offensive name. Here is my opinion on that:

 I am going to assume that the player ignored the rules or doesnt have enough common sense to not name your character something that ridiculous. Either way I am going to go ahead and "assume" that he isn't worth wasting my time talking to and no good will come from that conversation. Not to mention he will not be able to change his first name and most likely will not delete his character. So if he "assumed" that is okay to use a name like that then I am going to "assume" that he isnt worth wasting my time on other than to report him in hopes that his type will be banned and not allowed back on the server.

In Fapfap's case, as I said in my original post I think a name change is reasonable enough.

You see this is a non point. His name does violate the naming policy. There is no interpretation, it simply violates the naming policy. To suggest it doesn't is just ignorant.


Coming up with obscure meanings to justify a name violation has not worked for others. You can come up with obscure meanings for swastika if you want, it is how it is interpreted by the mass majority of the server that counts. Some off shot meaning that no one knows about is not a justification for violating the naming rules.


We don't live under rocks, we know what Fap means. Your assertion that most people don't know what it means is just wrong. The rules are not just limited to curse words.


We appreciate this very much.


I have been playing on this server since 2008. I have been very vocal nearly the entire time about rule violations. If I was going to ruin this server I would have ruined it a long time ago. If anything my attention to rule violations is good for this server. I mean, this is the most successful custom server on emu right now. And has been for quite some time. The rules Hunter put in place and the fact that he encourages people to police the server, along with the content have ensured that.

Most people don't know what blacknuss means and have never heard of it. On the other hand, most people know what fap means. There is no comparison of the two. One is a blatant violation of the naming rules, the other has some obscure meaning that most would not know about that might be interpreted as offensive.



If this thread keeps trash off the server, then this thread has done its job. I have been called a troll before on these forums. It is always by people who don't have any real points. And you have had none. Stop bucking the rules.

Just 2 Cents

For some reason the above quote made by FAPx3 or whatever, I highly doubt you two were giggling about Shakespeare when ya'll were high making name choices.

Pwnt

I alway pictured Xiggie as a Gnome not a Troll

And With a Pink Headbane that say Bad Man.
Gnome Monk

Gnomes like turtles

Robot turtles?

I find it incessantly funny that this small issue has gotten blown out of proportion.

Let's stop discussing it, cause it appears nobody's gonna agree.

BOTTOM LINE: My warrior's name has offended the server Gestapo, and Hunter will do exactly what he wants to do about that. Period. Stop talking about it please.

Part of choosing a ignorant name is getting an ignorant reputation. Part of the problem is that you think it is just a small issue that got blown out of proportion. It is not a small issue and this is a proportional response. Server gestapo? Have you looked over this thread? If you had you would know that it is the majority of the server that feels the same way about it. Tell me this, based off yours and your roommates response how many more times do you think your name violation ended up in Hunter's in box?

He's prolly got an inbox full of "Please ban Fapfap" right now Xiggie.

Again a point Kylok made was that when we came to the EZ server, we figured silly/inappropriate names wouldn't be a big deal since it is, after all, the EZ server. Had I known that people took this server this seriously, and felt the way they did about names, I never would have rolled my warrior with that name.

Hunter bans me, oh well. I'll reroll Frapsfraps Please Dont Ban Me Hunter.

The point I'm trying to make here is that you may have every right to write someone off as immature or someone you're unwilling to play with because of a silly name. However that seems a narrow way of looking at things. I don't think we've ran into each other once in game Xiggie. You don't know anything about my playstyle, maturity level, skill set, etc. Yet you're willing to throw people out with that bathwater.

Good luck. I bet your ignore list is a million miles long. Always seemed a silly way to play a game to me. Meh.

My 2c. I'm done watching this thread now. Trolls abound in these parts.

Or you could just man up knowing it's an unacceptable name and ask Hunter to rename you, due not knowing the rule set ... not everything people point out means ban, it means man up and get it fixed..


And you speak of your maturity level.. then post this?

Where does this type of response get you?

meh

see you in game hope you get a name change..

Actually I do know something about you. Only one thing and it is generally the first thing anyone knows about anyone on this or any other server. I know your name. And your name indicates you have the maturity level of a 12 year old. That is the impression you put out there with your name.

Xiggie

Trying to approach these people usually just ends up with hostile tells. They go out of their way trying to defend their characters name while bashing the naming policy.
As to the whole less people past tacvi with those names....doubtful at best. It is insanely easy here to get to the qvic/tacvi point while flying under the radar with a "unique" name. (Instancing, playing off peak hours, etc.)
One of the reasons this thread was started was probably due to the fact that trying to approach these people in game was an act of frustration at best. Being able to screenshot it, post it and email Hunter is far less trying and conveniently you don't have to deal with the idiots directly.

Glad I take a break from playing here during the summer months. Oh on a parting note Kylok, your asinine attempt at defending his choice of naming his toon truely doesn't conform to your claim that you quit P99 because of all the drama.

I actually had to look up what the name meant and why everyone was complaining about Fapfap... Pretty gross name - especially since you know it was done purposefully to get a response... Please be a bit more mature... We are all here to play the game not aggro everyone... Or are some of us... reminds me of the song about the guy that thinks he is so much cooler online.  Probably some short harry guy sitting all alone in his mommas basement at age 45 or so...

You people make me sick, I'm rerolling a warrior for my team as I type. The issue is done. Good day.

If this were an actual serious issue - it wouldn't be in rants and flames...

and the toon has not been banned.

and as an afterthought, I challenge you to find a direct quote of me saying that the name FapFap is in accordance with the naming policy. I pointed out some vague language and made a flimsy case of how vague words may be misconstrued. Just an example, not a defense.

To Xiggie - if you delete your offensively named paladin I'll delete my offensively named warrior.  Sounds fair enough to me. =D

Kylok,

Why do you think he never logs the paladin in period? I know why it was given to him then he realized it was a re-re name so he manned up and just did the right thing pretty much forgot the account info.

Get over yourself? Get over your hard on for Xiggie.. He wasn't even the original poster about Fapx3 or whatever.

Hunter really needs to put it in writing "don't be dumb."

oh nm he has.

BTW, if you don't like the Rules that Hunter has set forth then leave.

BTW, if you don't like that Hunter has asked the server to Police itself then leave.

BTW, if you don't like what you are reading then leave.

BTW, man up send Hunter an email get named changed or just reroll, then stay.

/sigh

I don't know why anyone argues in this thread. Trust me, I understand you people who are just completely irate at the few who go above and beyond normal policing duties. Trust me, I get it. But if you also read the rest of this thread, there are many many others who have tried to get their point across, usually unsuccessfully.

As useless as it may seem playing on a free server, to some people their name (reputation in this sense) matters way more than you would expect. So you really are going to have to get used to that or, without sounding cliche, leave.

I do not want you to leave. I'd love a much more diversely populated server. And in all hoensty, I would much rather give someone with a mildly offensive name the benefit of the doubt before crying the sky is falling down.

Not all people who roll slightly immature/offensive names has the "maturity of a 12 year old". That is just a rediculous blanket accusation. Some of the off color jokes, comments, and even blatant hand raising that some people scream 12 year old immaturity more than someone with a trivial name.

No im not condoning rule breaking and I totally get the thought process behind the rules. But you CANT always judge a book by it's cover.

Ive been here a few months now. Ive seen people complain on this thread about some folks with offensive names, yet, I have yet to see those people training, trolling /ooc or any other misdeeds. That is not to say they havent, I'm just saying I personally have not seen it.

One of Kylok's points was to bring it to the person before running and telling on them. Seems reasonable. But I think sometimes people have gone too far into thinking their whistle blower entitlement supersedes trying to reason with a person beforehand simply because they have permission.

Trust me, when I get pulled over, I'd much rather get a warning than a speeding ticket. Sometimes I didn't see the speed limit because it was a new neighborhood, or sometimes, I just thought I would go under the radar because no cops would be around and I could get away with it. Do either of those scenarios make me a bad person? No. Yes I broke the law by speeding. Does it mean I'm going to rob a bank or take someones life, or drive drunk? Probably not. Some people, however, enjoy being.... "that" cop. You're just going to have to get used to that. Like it or not, I'ts going to be that way because that's how this server operates.

You will never have the same reputation as others. If the kid with the most toys says you can't play, justifiable or not, whether you agree or not, fair or not, he's going to call the shots because they are his toys. It's not his park, but his bat and ball.  Everyone is going to be more inclined to agree with him, her, them, because that's what keeps the server going.

I'd suggest just letting it go and just try to ignore the people you dont like or dont care to agree with. Most people box all of their own toons anyway so you wont be missing out on much. Sadly, its a vicious circle and keeps things the way they are. It's still fun, but isnt as fun as it could be.

It's not about being that cop Sylkkdaskr.. It's about 1 pass gives another gives another then all the goons will run around with names like IRAPEDYOURMOMSASSANDPEEDINIT FORFUNHAHAHA or IBLAST PUSSYFORFUN.

You nip the stuff in the bud early, Hunter has squelched people for less in game with just a slip of shit or fuck (stuff like that)

 No one said BAN THE FUCKER, Just get his fucking name changed or make a new char damn.

Hunter wants close to a PG(ish) server as can be.. now RANTS and FLAMES.. different story (people shouldn't click here if they have virgin eyeballs)

I think you just want to argue. I put, in my wall of text that you omitted, the phrase "slightly offensive names". Yes that phrase is subject to interpretation, but one of the common trends I read throughout is "common sense". Common sense would tell you  IRAPEDYOURMOMSASSANDPEEDINIT FORFUNHAHAHA or IBLAST PUSSYFORFUN are beyond "slightly offensive."

I'm not here to argue rules, or whether something is right or wrong. I suggest you re-read my "wall of text" if you wish to make an argumentative retort.

Nope

Just telling you.

That I will not just (see your quote) ignore the rules, I do however ignore people who just bother me total different things we are talking about.

 
Rules are Rules, Keep turning a blind eye things will get worse.




btw,

Who are you in game?

I believe you misinterpreted what I meant by that, or I may not have been concise enough. My fault. When all the smoke is cleared, and your toon is deleted, deleveled, name changed or rerolled. If you do not like how person A, B, or C decides they want to handle things, ignore that player.

Having read and re-read this thread many times, I've more than seen my fair share of people using "just ignore them" argument. It doesn't work.

 ;D I'm on same page now

Actually.. eh.. you, um aren't. They are on page 26 and, umm, well.. you're on page 27.
Yes I know I am a dumbass, lol.

As for the challenge to delete the toon, I can't. It does not officially belong to me. I have however, as I indicated stopped using it. So in that sense, challenge accepted.

I know that it is hard to stop using a toon that you have worked to get to a certain level of gear. Especially when you first start out, it can take a while to get back to where you are. I would like to help out with that. In an earlier post I said the only thing I knew about the owner of fapfap is the name he chose. Now I know 2 things, no matter how you got there, you are chosing to do without your toon and follow the rules. I see that fapfap is in mostly tacvi and has his 3.0. I am not trying to sound like an elitist here but if you are interested I will get you your 3.0 and full tacvi. Contact me in game on Xiggie or Xandar.

Ill give ya FG set to help ya out

Thank you all for the responses and intelligent discussion on both sides of the argument concerning Fapfap. I logged the toon in last night to take all the cash off him and now hes going into hibernation until I can PL this new warrior. Byronosaurus and myself really, REALLY appreciate all the positive feedback we've gotten in the last 24 hours. We have 5 other toons that have 3.0's/tacvi gear (2 paladins, bard, rogue, monk) and a mage for PLing so getting back to 70 with 3.0s and tacvi gear and 500 AAs is really no big deal. We're quite happy being self sufficient and respectfully decline all offers to help replace this toon. But we really appreciate the offers! It really speaks to the actual common sense that Hunter encourages us to use =)

Thank you all and I'm glad this got cleared up =)

Kylok

I totally understand the self suffient part. I box from 1 group to 2 groups so I can do the stuff I want to do without having to depend on others. Doesn't mean I don't like to group, just means I like knowing I have the meat and potatoes to man it out myself. If you find yourself in a rut and need a little help getting over a hump don't hesitate to send me a message.

Omfg everyone's getting along again! :P

Makes me happy that the Kylok v. Xiggie flame war is ovah!

In all honesty, I feel as though I should have just gone to Hunter as soon as I saw my name on this thread and asked for a name change (which I have done). I just want to make it clear once again that I didn't roll my toon with this name, or post on this thread, with any intention of instigating drama. I feel like forums, especially RnF sections, lead to people's intended messages often getting misconstrued. Subtext, inflection, and tone are very hard to properly communicate through text alone, and I make no claim to being a terrific writer.

Xiggie and Fugitive, thanks for the kind offers! If Hunter decides to just ban the toon instead of doing a name change, I feel like it will be best to regear my toon myself. See above posts about self-sufficiency. That's half of why I always pop instances for everything. I'm willing to burn 10k on a quick 15 min Tacvi run just so I don't obstruct others being able to play the game as they want.

Best regards to the folks at Dignatio and Rage. We'll see ya in-game! :)

-ByronosaurusRex

Xiggie i agree there are some names out there that are innapropriate but sitting here whining about every name YOU dont like is bullshit, YOU are the only person that has a problem with most of these names, and it seems like you just want some attention from hunter, Report the ones that are bad and leave the good players alone. Stop sitting at your computer being a tattle tail and go get some sun, never in my life have i seen such a titty baby complain over a game >_<

I have never seen Xiggie say anything about a name where I didn't also agree it broke the rules.  Of course, Hunter has the final say, so if any of us complained about a name that Hunter thought was okay, he'd have the option to completely ignore the complaint.

From what I've seen, the people that complain the loudest when people mention the rules are the ones that are breaking them.

Wow, you are such a clueless idiot. I don't report names because I don't like them, I report names because they violate the rules. Let me give you an example to show what I am talking about.
 
Bobthebuilder (http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Bobthebuilder)

In my opinion that toon has a dumb name that does not belong in an mmo. I would say the same thing about someone named Paris Hilton or Michael Jackson. They are references to real life people and in no way shape or for fit with the continuity of a fantasy based game. Have I ever reported Bobthebuilder? No. Have I ever bad mouthed Bobthebuilder? Aside from right now, absolutely not. That is because his name does not violate Hunters naming rule. The naming rule was not made for my likings or dislikings. It was not made with me being considered or in mind. The naming rule has nothing to do with me. My reporting names on this list is not because I dislike them, it is because they violate the naming rule.

All that being said, I would like to throw out a personal note to the character named Bobthebuilder. I actually didn't know there was a toon named Bobthebuilder but went and looked it up with I thought to use an example. If it had been a toon that was obviously in use I would have changed my example. However he is a lvl 6 bst, so unless he was created today he is not active. If this person is active or returns to active let me know and I will issue a public apology and reward.

Id like to thank Xiggie .. without him I'd be running around playing with people named Faponyour Mom or something stupid... ty buddy

Xiggie does it because he care about the server alot. 

I think Xiggie is one of our most senior members by now. He's been here forever.

Xiggie told me he liked my toons name --- thanks Xiggie

Magelo
http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Mesohorny (http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Mesohorny)
Guy seems nice - inappropriate name however...

Really is a shame with some people.

Holy hell, I understand the concept of self policing and such, but I'm rather... shocked at how upset people seem to be over names. Especially stuff like "Fapfap", seriously?

It's just beyond me how people get so bothered by names. Yeah, if someone has a name like "Jizzmonkey" that's pretty retarded, but for the life of me I can't imagine being bothered by it or caring in the least. I just genuinely don't get it. Yes, I know the rules, I'm not interested in debating them, and feel free to check all my chars, they are all kosher. I'm just saying the rationale for caring is beyond me.

I mean, I suppose it's good that there are so few people actually making things unpleasant by training or KSing or whatever that we don't really need to worry about that and rather it's just about playing name police. That's good I suppose.

I am getting old I really did not know what fapfap mean

What exactly is innapropriate about that name? Really.. are you 8 years old? This isn't self-policing server anymore, it's a collection of nazis spending 26hours/day trying to grief someone over a name.

No I am not an 8 yr old but my 6 yr old son sometimes plays.  If this were a server full of nothing but people over the age of 16 or so than yeah names like that are kinda okay.. But however it isnt - I know of some 10 or 12 yr olds that play here as well... They actually act more mature than some 30 yr olds. It is kinda sad you can think some of these names are just for fun... Evidently you cannot think of anything better than that to name a toon.  Sounds like a lot a people can think of nothing but is what is in their hand or in their pants... Come on that is something you should only do in private... Not in a public forum like EQ... Be original - show you have a bit of gray matter up there in your skull.. Stop thinking with something you probably have very little of to begin with or you wouldnt be wanting to talk it up... Sorry this is getting ugly and so are some of the names like Fapfap (the sound made by masturbating) or Mesohorny Gotwood (self explanatory).. If your horny find your wife or girlfriend and get over it.

Who really wants to play a toon that is called the Masterbrater or means that?

Maybe I can explain some of what I have seen when the naming violation is left unchecked. The server in a lot of ways seems to take on its own life. It has its own personality and its own maturity. Each guild on here has its own personality and its own maturity. The maturity and personality is based off of the people who compose each. At times in the past when naming violation or training were left unchecked the over all maturity of the server goes down. You see people coming on line and spewing all sorts of drama in ooc, cursing every other word, training, kill stealing and griefing in general. There are 2 things that I have seen that help the most in keeping the maturity level up the most. Naming violation and ninja looters. Keeping those two at bay adds a good 5 years to the server maturity in my opinion.

In the past when those things were left unchecked I have seen Hunter have to come in and do mass bannings. In one day I saw 17 people banned for warping. Hunter even had a post on the old old forums, (ez.makeforum.org). It is one of the few times he has ever listed names. Another time I saw nearly an entire guild banned for throwing an immature shitfit on the forums and in ooc.

It is always hard to see the benefit of preventative maintenance.

Having come from the other side of the fence, I have to agree with Xiggie on this one. Honestly if you made an offensive name just for fun, then awesome - you had your fun.. but don't expect that toon to be your main cause it's against naming policy and *might* get banned. Yeah the rules might be a little stricter then some of us are used to (I live in pretty liberal part of California) but it's nothing we can't deal with. The toon Fapfap is history, Byronosaurus rolled another appropriately named warrior and I did as well (Ji'e'toh - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ji%27e%27toh#Ji.27e.27toh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ji%27e%27toh#Ji.27e.27toh)) phear_my_robert_jordan_references_=D. He's 70's now with a handful of AA's and nearly in the fighters guild.. another day or two and he'll be in the same place that Fapfap was at when he got deleted (self policing, we kindly asked Hunter and he said don't play it or delete it so we chose the latter so that we could at least still use the account). If you're a half way serious player on this server its not too hard to abide by the rules, or if you were ignorant of them for a time to fix the problem yerself, like a adult with your big boy pants on. When in Rome do as the Romans do, when on the EZ server, read the rules and don't piss Hunter off.

As a side note I think it should be mentioned that the vast majority of these inappropriately named toons are low level or very very early in progression (probably some idiot from another server who rolled a toon on EZ cause his was rebooting).

I still think the most mature way to deal with it is to inform said person that their name is in violation and gauge their reaction. If they get defensive report em to Hunter, if they're nice and ask what they should do tell them to reroll while it's still easy and they don't have to replace sets of gear and multiple epics >.<   

/flame off see you all in game =D I get a huge laugh out of seeing the terribad names that get posted here...

--Galadedrid Damodred of the Light--

I went out of my way and took your advice on that just for the hell of it.

Since I continue to see the 2 characters "Rubbingon Yourchildren" and "Caressing Yourchildren". I went ahead and messaged him about his name. I stated that it was an inappropriate name and you might get banned for using it.

His response was: "Wow i didn’t think anyone would have a problem with it, it is just a name." "They will have to deal with it".

Three days later and I am still seeing him running around the nexus/surefall.

I guess that is about the answer I expected. What I am getting at is that the type of person that would use a name like the above, probably doesn’t have that normal built in social common sense filter that most people over the age of 18 have. He is not offended by trashy names, he is going to be offended by the fact that someone is trying to make him conform to some naming rules. Players like this attracts other bad players and within 6 months the server is a cesspool. Ban the mentality behind that type of player.

Also to add another offensive naming violation to this list.

There is an entire guild named: "Bluntz Smokers" or "Smoking Bluntz" and most of the people i see in that guild seem to have names related to smoking weed. (dont know the exact name but will post a SS and email hunter soon)

Again, am I offended by this? No. I am sure half this server smokes weed. I spent 2 years of my early 20s partying it up and trying almost every drug. So no it doesnt offend me.

I am playing a Fantasy game though and I do not want to see idiots running around with drug references as their names. I get it you are cool and smoke weed. Keep that to yourself and your parole officer.

If we go by the naming convention of regular EQ then i highly doubt they would allow a guild named Blunt Smokers.

Guild names are created by Hunter, so I think knowns.

Yeah drugs aren't addressed in the naming policy directly, though it is entirely up to Hunter as he's the only one who makes guilds. I'm sure that if you send Hunter an e-mail about both the blunt smokers and the pedophile that he will at the very least respond to your e-mail at his earliest convenience with his thoughts on the subject. I think we can all agree about Rubbingon Yourchildren being in violation of the naming policy, and props for being an adult and at least attempting to use adult avenues to solve a problem. If the guy's been report he'll be banned/name changed/deleted in time so I wouldn't fret over it. I straight up asked Hunter what to do with Fapfap in an e-mail and he said either retire him or delete him, that was the ultimatum and I'm sure it applies to everyone with a name in violation of policy. Concerning those who smoke blunts, I'd just mention it to him and ask whether it's in violation or not, if it is it'll be dealt with and if not... you can always turn off PC names =D.

--Galadedrid

I am sure the pedo name will be dealt with quite quickly by Hunter as soon as he is made aware of it. That is super in your face violation.

The weed references, personally I wish it was not there. However, that is kind of a controversial subject, I am sure there is a large portion of the server who smokes weed. Myself? I smoked it, but have not touched the stuff nor allowed it around me for over 15 years. I guess I would say that is probably one of those iffy things, Hunter may or may not change it.

On an additional note, I have seen other guild names that were inappropriate. Hunter has not confirmed it that I recall but I believe he creates the guilds on the back end and just copy and pastes it. I could be wrong, but there was a guild name in the past that was very inappropriate and Hunter changed it quite quickly once he was emailed about it. It just seemed like a logical explanation. Hell I would not put it past Hunter to create guilds at a red light with his phone, lol.

This sounds like there can be some confusing of correlation vs. causation here. Not necessarily saying that it is the case, but could be.

What I mean is that, say during these periods of time where perceived maturity decreases (let me point out there really isn't some objective way to truly measure the maturity level) it may not be the result of names, but rather you see more of those names because it is during a time when less administration of the rules is going on. So it's not like people make dumb names, and then from there start acting like douchebags, but rather it just happens at the same time and you wind up seeing more dumb names AND more violators of other rules because there has been less bansticks going out.

One may not be causing the other in any way, but rather they are simply correlated by the fact that less people are being whacked with the banstick. I mean, like I said, I really don't know for sure. I just know it's incredibly easy to confuse correlation vs. causation without even realizing it.  

Man I didn't want to get in a matrix debate with anyone, wow. Whether it is cause or coincidence does not matter. What matters is the two co-exist. It is not nearly as complex as what you're drawing it out to be.

Somebody just took Philosophy 120 last semester....

Uhh, what I said wasn't at all complex?


It's logic, not philosophy. In any case, I've never taken philosophy or logic classes. I thought this type of stuff was fairly standard knowledge, but I guess I'll just stick to mindless gibberish on these forums.

Your child gets worse influence when he visits your parents or going to the school than he does in this game. So try to tolerate it a bit. I presume you filter your sons air and scale humidity in the air to keep him safe as well? While we're at keeping children out of harms way, aren't you like visiting the forbidden garden of eden by just letting him play computer games at the age of 6?

Parenting 101 is a perfect book you need to read.


And that is wrong how? You're against smoking weed, but you promote playing video games that are equally or even more addictive and have known prolonged issues with health than the weed you mention does.

Hypocrisy at it's best?

--
I really can't freaking believe it, it seems Xiggle is one of the few who have retained their sanity and report the "bad names", all others are like before mentioned nazi griefers who report anything THEY personally think doesn't belong in this game.

I have parented 5 grown children of my own and now I am a treatment parent in a foster care setting. I refuse to be judged on my parenting abilities.. My 6 yr old son is not permitted to play ANY video games or watch any television without supervision.. As for Parenting 101 - it is written by someone that probably has never parented - I have almost 28 yrs of wonderful experience and have raised more than 30 kids that had parents that lost them because they were on drugs, selling or making drugs, or just flat out idiots.  I have raised kids that their parents just flat out didnt want anything to do with raising a kid.  ALL of my kids love me - even my foster children.. I am fun, not boring like most. I play sports with them, take them fishing, hunting, boating and even coach sports.  Oh yeah and I even play video games with them. When you reach the age of 50 and can tell me that you have made even a fraction of a difference in the lives of people and kids, I applaud you. I have Masters in Education and have also taught public and private schools for 18 yrs.  I have been a deacon in my church of 12 yrs. Served as a youth pastor and worked with kids most of my life.

ALL of my kids are great kids - and the ones that are grown are great adults and parents because their mother and I watched out for them and taught them how to be productive citizens and responsible adults.

BTW - My personal email is not private or hidden like most of you..

Grats on showing your teeth.  It's an (inevitable) eventual process for some, not so much for others.

Actually the comment about my child getting worse influence - I would agree partly about the school - but my parents are both deceased and so are my wifes. They were wonderful parents and grandparents that stood by me and my wife 100 percent - and loved their grandbabies with more heart than most.  Actually they have great schools as well.  If I felt EQ was a bad influence I would never let my kids play.  It isnt EQ - it is the lack of moral fiber exhibited by some of those who play the game that worries me.  The displays that I see are part of the reason that I have a job working in foster care and as a treatment parent.  I wish I didnt have this job.  But because in part of this attitude (I can do what I want no matter who it offends or how morally right it is) I can see that I will have a job for a long time - helping and encouraging kids. Teaching them that this world is a gift from God and we need to treat it as such... I would be glad to talk to anyone about the issue at hand - but would prefer to do so in an adult manner with no name calling and no violent outbursts.  Guess What?  God loves you and so do I... Paul Out..

Apparently you need to train up in your reading comprehension skills. I clearly stated that I don’t have a problem with drugs or people doing them. My problem is making a guild or characters named after drug references in an online fantasy game. This is supposed to be a PG rated online game with the same naming conventions as EQ Live. Thus this guild name doesn’t belong.  Where do you draw the line on drug references? Can someone make a character named "Snorting Coke". Easy solution, keep character names PG. No drug references.

It is almost like you read something else out of my text that wasn’t even there and then took it way out to left field on your pointless tirade. I don’t promote online games or care one way or another about them. However if I was to post a counter argument to your moronic statement, clearly you can’t compare a video game addiction to doing an illegal drug.

Idiocy at its best?

Futility at it's best. Drug references aren't covered in the naming policy - I'll reference it again in this thread just to refresh everyone's memories. We don't use the classic EQ live naming policy, or else anything that was a three word phrase would be in violation or anything that was outside of the realm of high fantasy.

"NO BAD WORDS
Offensive words in names or public chat will not be tolerated, such as anything sexual, racist, hateful, etc." - http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=8.0 (http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=8.0)

Rules are rules.. and these rules say that drug references are A-Okay, just nothing sexual, racist or hateful. If you don't like the rules or want them changed send Hunter an e-mail. He has always gotten back to be in a timely manner and answered my questions adequately. Now, that being said that little etc at the end of the quote does indeed leave quite a wide hole for Hunter to use his own discretion. Smokin Bluntz or whatever the guild name is is fine for now, who knows if Snortin Coke and Mainline Heroin would be considered inappropriate by Hunter... besides Hunter.

But here's the bottom line, Xiggie - the guy who's been hangin around on this server for 4 or 5 years, says he hasn't seen anyone banned for drug references ever in his entire time spent on the EZ server. To me, that's a huge hint as to how Hunter feels about drug references on his server. You can argue and debate whether it's moral and appropriate to have drug references in a fantasy game till the cows come home.. but it probably won't change anything here on the EZ server.

A side note for the haters, you learn a lot of logic in philosophy classes, at least I did =P. And yes, correlation vs causation arguments do indeed get very complicated/complex/convoluted and very quickly, if you insist that this statement is false then I challenge you to give me a brief, concise summary of the three matrix movies and how this correlation vs causation argument is presented and executed throughout them (as they as a great example of above argument type) with a clear well thought out thesis completed with cited sources and written at the college level. MLA format is preferred though Chicago or APA will be accepted.

If correlation vs causation was simple, we would've figured out whether the chicken or the egg came first a long, long time ago.

Also, cannabis is a legal medicine in a number of states now, including mine - California =D And if you really, really, want to go down that road comparing video games to drugs we could pull up the stats of how many people have committed suicide over MMO's, I can think of at least 2 documented cases involving EQ off the top of my head and I'm sure there's more now that there's more MMO's. Total number of documented cases of cannabis overdose in the entire human history: 0. 

And if we could get off the topic of bashing each others' personal lives then maybe we could get back to the point of this thread... enforcing the actual naming policy.. not the one that you want enacted.

--Galadedrid Damodred of the Light

same here

I think I will side with common sense on this one but it will be Hunter's judgment call so continuing to argue about it is pointless. I just posted this to "refresh your memory" since you are good at quoting only pieces of the policy and not others.




No these rules do not say anything about it being okay. These rules state specific examples and then "etc...". That ETC... along with the common sense line from above leaves it open for interpretation by the owner. We all get that and didn't need your inaccurate post to revisit it.



First off, I didn’t go down that road, the other poster did. I just pointed out the ignorance of comparing gaming addiction to using illegal drugs. They aren’t really comparable other than they prey on a human weakness, addiction. Secondly, you might need to go back to your college in Chicago and ask for a refund if you think that comparing suicides and overdoses is even a valid argument. Why don’t you try comparing apples to apples and googleup how many people have committed suicide because of weed? Probably 0, I have no idea, but at least formulate an appropriate argument before posting it in the public forum. I can't even defend that nor would I.

The proof is in the pudding, if Hunter didn't like drug references he would've banned people for it by now. If common sense were truly common more people would have it. Go ahead, send Hunter an e-mail and ask him out right whether he cares about drug references in the naming policy and see what he says. As far as I can tell, Hunter enforces the naming policy with the ban stick VERY STRICTLY to things that are "sexual, racist, hateful" outside of those three things the bannings are few and far between. No it does not directly say that drug references are okay but it also doesn't say that they aren't.

And when I said you, I meant the second person plural you, as in I was addressing everyone who has posted in this thread (you all or y'all is more common then my usage).. was not singling mokaloka99 out. Chicago is a style of citation formatting for college papers, I've never been to the actual place, like I said I live in California.. and go to school here as well. And comparing the outcomes of addictions in terms of mortality is fairly valid.. people do it all the time with cannabis vs alcohol. And no, I'm not trying to get into any sort of debate about this. Though I appreciate your response =D.

--Galad

Thought I`d throw in my 2 cents in here.  I saw Fapfap a while back and the only thing that came to mind was that it was a pretty silly name.  I had no idea that it was a slang for masturbation until I saw it refferenced in a link to the Urban Dictionary.  I`d really love to know what % of people actually knew that!  Since anyone can add ANY word they wish to the urban dictionary, I fail to understand how it can be considered credible.
Secondly as far as this debate with drug refferences and the naming policy I will say this;  I haven`t been a user of them for a great number of years however drug use and fantasy do have a very long history together.  Examples are numerous: Àlice in Wonderland for example had more drug refferences than Cheech and Chong`s up in smoke.  Tolken had many many drug refferences within The Lord of the Rings.  These are just to name a couple, the list would be almost endless.  So do I have a problem with it, absolutely not.  The people who are worried about kids seeing it should be just as worried about the endless violence, or alcohol usage within EQ, not to mention the adictive nature of EQ itself.


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http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fap

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAP (last one)

http://www.google.com/search?q=Fap&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1262&bih=825 (NSFT!!)

It is fairly common.

Never debate drugs on a forum. No resolution ever.

OK.... so Fap is noted on sites other than the Urban Dictionary you have made your point however unless it`s in print within a dictionary such as Websters I still don`t feel its credible. 
As for debating drugs on a forum I will agree Xiggie there is no resolution, but everyone has thier opinion and is welcome to share it  :)



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Many things aren't in Websters that we use every day and everyone knows the meaning of.  Even so, it doesn't matter if you think it is credible or not, because apparently Hunter did.

I can`t argue with Hunters rational for banning the toon as it was obvious after the fact that the name was chosen intentionally based upon it`s inherent slang connotation.  That being said if the name had been just Fapfap with a surname other than Fapfapfapfapfap, I would have seen no issue.

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Exactly, ultimately Hunter is the Judge/Jury/Executioner for whatever issue there is on the server.

Agreed the drug topic is a moot point and no resolution will ever be reached we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Xiggie - I know I pick on you a lot but it's nothing personal =D. None of those links are primary sources >.> (the wikipedia one even lacks a reference link, sadly. The oldest Google image I could find, though admittedly I didn't look very hard, was roughly 1 year old) and the one about memes (pronunciation?) posted by lerxst2112 that mentions Fap is roughly a year old and was last updated 11 months ago which makes this a neologism (new word) and its fair to assume that most people haven't heard of it that aren't internet trolls such as myself. For example, I asked a friend of mine's younger brother (19) if he knew what Fap meant and he had no idea, he could tell me all about the M.O.B. - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M.O.B. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=M.O.B.) - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=money%20over%20bitches (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=money%20over%20bitches) and the entire history of the California Bay Area rap scene going back to before he was born.. but he had no idea what Fap meant and when informed he laughed hysterically at the stupidity, and the fact that it was even an issue to us silly people who play our silly internet games.. I'm paraphrasing as what he said was much more graphic. So how many of you (second person plural you, not singling anyone out) have heard of this M.O.B. philosophy? Probably not many unless you're from where I live and love hyphy http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hyphy (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hyphy) rap =P It takes time for new words to spread around especially if you're not involved in the field where that word evolved. And of course some of us take our knowledge of internet slang for granted and figure everyone knows - a poor assumption to make, at least from an academic/scientific standpoint.

That being said, Fap is clearly against naming policy and moreover Hunter personally said to not play a character with that name. Now that the dead horse has been beaten to a pulp does anyone have anything new and relevant to add to this thread?

--Galad

If you actually read the information at the link I posted you'd see it's not a new thing at all.  From 2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjvRwVGQwLE

The horse has deffinetly been beaten, hell its been shot, stabbed, electocuted, hit by a bus, and chopped into dog food !  The point I was trying to make wasn`t so much with the fact that I felt Fap wasn`t against the naming policy but how it was sourced, ie: the Urban Dictionary.  Just for shits and giggles I looked up Hunter on the Urban Dictionary and found 55 independant deffinitions; many of which would violate the naming policy!  Just some food for thought   ;)



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I stand corrected! It is indeed older than a year =D.

M.O.B. dates back to the mid 90's, have you heard of it?
http://www.mp3lyrics.org/0-9/2pac/mob/ (http://www.mp3lyrics.org/0-9/2pac/mob/) lyrics,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Until_the_End_of_Time_%28album%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Until_the_End_of_Time_%28album%29) the album its on referencing when the song was written (Makaveli period),
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makaveli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makaveli) under prison sentence and death row records confirming the date of said period.

So what have we learned here today? The MOB word/philosophy is approximately 16 years old and yet most of us have never heard this usage. If I made a toon named Mobbin it would be in violation of the naming policy for being hateful and sexist, though I'm fairly sure that unless I or someone else with a similar background sent Hunter an e-mail regarding said violation... it would never get reported. Why? 'Cause most of us forum trolls don't listen to hardcore gangsta' rap. However, we do masturbate and therefore most of us know what Fapfap means despite it being much newer then MOB - simply because we play online video games and beat off.

If anyone takes issue with my sources please bring it up so I can find primary sources, I'm just too lazy to do real research.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/page/about_us/about- (http://oxforddictionaries.com/page/about_us/about-) this is a credible source for word definitions =P You won't find Fap or mob (in the context I use it, you get mafia and an angry crowd) there though =/.

--Galad

Did you fapfap today? 'Cause if not you best be mobbin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIBYElounz8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIBYElounz8) just for fun.

Some things are more common than others. Fact is FAP so common enough that someone created a character on the EZ server with the name FAPFAP. Incidentally there is another character named FAPFAPFAP. As far as mobbin, it seems to be pretty uncommon to the point of obscure. You don't see the term all over the intenet as you do FAP. Doing a search of mobbin brings back results to do with a large crowd moving together. Hell my real name is Randy, which also means horny. The more common and socially accepted meaning though is the name. When someone says I am Randy, you don't think, well, he must be horny, you think oh, my name is Carl, nice to meet you. Same thing with the word Hunter. When someone says Hunter I think that must be there name or profession. Ok maybe their class on WoW. You can pull obscure meanings from all over the place. Obscure definitions have come up in this thread several times. It's all about common interpretation.

Oh, and for shits and giggles, here is fap from a long time ago.

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Guess im getting old, First i thought they were talking about hair cream and i was gonna say "I'm a dapper dan man" but that was F.O.P.. So then i thought maybe it was somthing you would call a dogs leaky anal gland, But no i was brought up to speed on my vocabulary from a badly named toon. So thank you all for educating me and not making me look all that old in front of my children when i yell out " Get your FapFap hands off my food" .

To a certain degree you are correct Xiggie, Fap in it`s slang form seems to be fairly common if you do a search for it.  The dictionary deffinition(s) for it I would say are semi obscure therefore it seems to constitutes a violation.  However I believe it isn`t so much it`s common interpretation but it`s intended use.  
Example: If I make a character named Randy here on EZ I highly doubt anyone would have an issue with it but if I then added the surname Foryourmother, I`m sure a few people would report it.  I guess the bottom line is it`s all dependant on how Hunter and the rest of the community percieves it which makes it a violation or not.


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Guild should have name changed.

You're absolutely right, in internet culture fafap has been fairly common for lets say 6 years. That being said, I've never heard someone say it out load outside of talking about this discussion in person with other people who play on EZ. Conversely, I hear mobbin or variations of the word in its various different forms on a daily basis in person... and only very little on the internet, and that only pertaining to the gangsta rap context it's used in - different strokes for different folks. Now, in rap culture mobbin is very common. How common? The record the song MOB is on "Until the End of Time" was certified triple platinum this year, meaning it's sold more then 3 million copies.. so no I doubt it's obscure if there are 3 million copies floating around. Not to mention the LEGION of rappers who have taken that phraseology and run with it, spawning many more millions of albums sold. Where I come from, in the Bay Area of California this slang term is extremely common... but then again we have a lot of slang that's fairly unique to our geographic area. MOB is just about obscure as FAP, both are relatively new words to the English language both of which (in my opinion at the very least) are in violation of the naming policy. They're both new enough to have a large number of people who have never heard of them while also having another large number of people who hear it on a nearly daily basis. You can't just be picky and choosey about what is in violation of the naming policy because you haven't heard of it or you think it's obscure, it's whether it is intended to be offensive or whether Hunter deems it offensive or in violation of the naming policy that we all know so well by now (sex race hate). Since he encourages us to self police the policy I take that as a cue for all of us to use our combined knowledge to make sure that the naming policy is enforced to Hunter's standards. Or should I just use the rule of thumb that if I type it into google and get offensive results that it's common enough to be deemed inappropriate and in violation of policy? Try searching for Money Over Bitches.. the results are a tad different >.>. It's like trying to make the distinction between stfu and shut the fuck up.

--Galad

Since I've been thinking about this all day >.< I've come up with some inappropriate drug references that are in violation of naming policy - Poor, poor Midol. Any sex related drugs would of course be in violation of the naming policy, as poor Midol already got banned for their ignorance.

P.S. Neat pic - does it come with a last modified date? cause I doubt they knew what fapfap meant when people still took black and white photos ROFL. Infact.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAP) "Femtocell (Femto Access Point), a small cellular telephone base station" would be my guess as to the actual context of that photo =D. Before having the fapping comment added to the bottom of course. =D

Why? I thought we had already been over this.. there's nothing sexual, racist, or hateful about smoking a blunt.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blunt (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blunt)

--Galad

I would assume that picture is WWII ish and cells didn`t exist...   A better guess would be First Aid Post given the big cross above.

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Or it could have been a joke, maybe even a small attempt at distracting the current drug debate.

Hmmmm, good one Xiggie.  Almost forgot about it....  Back to the debate!

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I literally just lol'd at myself for taking this as seriously as I have. Thanks Xiggie =D I'll be the first to admit I've taken one too many debate/reason & argumentative writing classes for my own good. Nice job figuring out that pic, I obviously had a nice fail with that one while making myself look a fool in the process. I need to get off these forums and play the game >.<.

See you there!

--Galad

edit: wtb sarcasm marks like bold and italics and stuff.. would bring a whole new life to the discussion we have on forums =D

Those made me laugh out loud at the office Trog...

Not going to thumbnail this but damn it was hilarious when i saw it the first time
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I lol'd at that one trog =D

I thought that was funny enough to use as my sig - if ya don't like that just lemme know and I'll remove it. And yes, I did clean up the grammar 'cause I'm a grammar Nazi, and yes, I will try and keep it to a minimum and to myself >.<

--Galad

Wile some of the nuance of the meaning is lost when removing the grammatical errors leaving only the dry essence of the words, your welcome to misquote me in any way you see fit. I am just glad i could bring a moment of happiness to a thread otherwise marred by the infidelities of miscreants and saboteurs of good taste...

Saboteurs of good taste... there's another quote waiting to happen heheh

Retard, meet the Ban Hammer

Not the first time I'm seeing that guy on this thread. A shame that he isn't getting assraped in a small cell right now.

this guys accounts really need bannin

Don't forget his sidekick too...
Really? there's silly, and then there's wtf were you thinking...
 

I trust you all are sending these screen shots to Hunter in e-mails? =D

e-mail sent and has bee responded to, thanks for asking

maybe hunter has been busy or he doesnt pay as much attention to players he doesnt know. I had emailed him that guy's characters in a Screenshot 1 1/2 weeks ago.

Still havent heard anything about the blunt smokers guild. Hopefully that guild name is rejected soon.

If you scroll up in this thread you will realize that Hunter doesn't give a crap about drug references, unless they are both drug and sexual references in the same breath (see Midol). Best not to beat a dead horse on that one. Blunt Smokers probably ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

And he is busy, do a little digging on forums and you'll see Hunter has like one day a week to deal with all this bs, in addition to coding, fixing bugs, and devving new content. Not to mention his RL job....  If, as Kenshou says, he has responded to an e-mail about Rubbin's toons, those accounts are likely banned already.

Hunter CREATED the guild as requested by the leader.  Pretty sure he saw it as he typed it out.  Don't hold your breath on that being taken down.

Believe this man,

--Galad

That being said, Blunt Smokers aren't going anywhere as their guild name isn't in violation of naming policy - regardless of Hunter's hand in their creation.

Well it only took 1 week for another loser to to pop up on the radar. Here is another character that should just be banned. If he is that clueless to try and use this name he doesnt deserve a rename.

Emailed to hunter.


Thats obviously a play on "Fuck You" and actually "Forking" is a sexual act and when he puts "You" in the last name that is the definition he is implying or he is just straight up saying F U.

Good call, and I second that. It is extremely obvious.

All this guy has to do is change his last name to Knife and he's no longer eligible for a ban - unnecessary imo.

If I see them in game I'll inform them of their predicament.

Can't wait to see whether they get banned or not =D

--Galad

I think he already changed his last name.
Got a tell from him thinking changing his name was probably the right course of action.

Yeah, fortunately that one is an easy one to fix. Just wish I could figure out a to fix that uc pally I have access to, lol.

easy fix .. lose the info

Or delete it. Why let a good account go to waste?

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It is not technically mine, I was just given access to it by someone who said they were not coming back.

What's so bad about it's name anyway?

It's bad.. It's like ___________. /shock

Well, it is not mine so I will not post the name directly. However I can post the general meaning. It is unique way of saying having sex with a womans face. And it is very very obvious.

Is that like all... I want to Xiggie yo-face?


Nah that can't be it.. /shrug

Easy, change his last name to "not!"  It works for Borat.

Send it to Hunter, but also explain what happen. Just don't make it a huge email or it will be a longer time before it is read.

Can someone explain to me what Gothmog has done wrong?  I'm not trolling or being a d*ck or anything, I just would like to know so I don't do it unintentionally;  I'm a minor noob to EQ, but a complete nooblet to EZ.

Thanks in advance

It was a little hard to figure out for me too. From the conversation you can tell he was supposed to be waiting but chose not to.

camp was taken and claimed. Kill Stealing is frowned upon, but that is why we have group instances, make one for yourself if the public one is  currently occupied. Problem solved

ah,  I just noticed the chat box on the right part of the screen.  thanks for not drilling me a new one!! pretty nice forums compared to what I'm used to

see ya in game!

Just to be clear here, I believe Kenshou is suggesting that the moron who came in and KS'd Chaos is the one who should have made an instance :)

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Haha, come on guys.  You've never seen the episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?  THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MESS WITH THE MCPOYLES CHARLIE, YOU GET FORK STABBED!

He gon go fork stabbin peeps up in dis piece naw i'm sayin????  ;D

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Nuff said?

If you are camping for 5 different toons, make an instance.  That is so rude of you to make the entire server wait for an hour and a half because you do not want to shell out 10k. 

10k is beyound nothing, stop being so cheap.  I say good for Goth

Good for goth? You are actually praising someone for breaking the rules? Rude or not, take it to the forums and post about it, don't break the rules. How smart is it to get banned cause you couldn't wait a little time or just buy an instance yourself. Fact is what the first guy was doing is not against the rules, and he was even accommodating, what Goth did is bannable and not very popular with any everquest server I have ever played on.

Yes, he broke the rules.  However, it should be on the guy who wants 5-6 pages to make the instance, not the guy who needs one. 

I agree with that. I think anyone who needs multiple ones should make their own instance. However I don't agree with it to the extent that it justifies people breaking the rules. And I certainly don't agree with it enough to say good for soandso for breaking the rules.

Ehhhh, I understand where you are coming from.  Yet I cannot support the other individual involved.  The rule was put in place to protect people from losing something they have invested their time in.  After all, noone wants to wait a large amount of time only to have said mob stolen from them.  However, he was abusing that rule.  While the letter of the law supports him, the spirit of the law says, "Shame on you"

That is why I said good for Goth.  I do not condone rule breaking out of spite... But sticking up for yourself?  He has my support : )

So what if he needs more than 1?  He was there first, and he has claimed the mob.  He can stay there as long as he likes for as many kills as he wants.  If 10k is just "no big deal" and he's too impatient to wait, why not just pop his own instance and be done with it?  I don't care how impatient you are, or what your personal feelings might be, KS'ing douchebagery of this sort is just bad ju ju.
The whole server doesn't have to wait on him, everyone has just as much equal right to make an instance.  This isn't a discusion about who "can" do what, it's a factual statement about who "did" what.

He is not abusing it. I have seen people camp this when they didn't even need it, so they could sell it. In some way shape or form, they have a need for it as well. Whether it be a need for their alts, or a need for the plat from a sale. I do understand your point of view, however I don't think the first guy did anything wrong. Personally I would have created my own instance if I was camping more than one, but not because I feel the person or myself should have to. I would create my own instance because I don't want to have to deal with people like Goth.

I would like to say however that if he had been camping the stuff just to be a dick and was destroying the gear then he would most certainly be in the wrong. That would be griefing. I would also like to say thanks for helping keep this in a civil way.

He jumped in line where he shouldn't have end of story. I'm sure if he asked nicely most players let you in..

Rather the dude was boxing or not think if it was 6 real life players trying to accomplish the same thing. I've seen both, I've been stuck behind them too.

Goth was 100% in the wrong, he should have rolled up dropped an instance, waited, asked, or found something else to do.

As for sticking up for him I see your heart, but these rules have established, written, and enforced. These rules do not ask much from us, basically don't be dumb.

Yes, Goth was/is a jerk.  I still say the guy camping for 6 alts is the bigger jerk... period.  The whole world does not revolve around either of them. 

Would I have KS'd the mob?  No I wouldn't.  I would troll them for awhile and whine on the forums like the first guy did.  Yet, I would not have KS'd him. What I am saying is claiming a 15 minute spawn mob for hours is rude plain and simple and he should not be on here whining when someone checks him.

Complaining because someone else got there first for something you want is childish, plain and simple...  If you got there first, you should be able to expect others to respect that.  It doesn't matter what the reason is they are camping the item, if they got there first, you leave, period.

This is a common practice on every everquest server I have ever played on. Every game I have ever played on supports this. I don't know one single game that requires or suggests you move on after you loot one of the items of a special drop. Every game I have ever played does however have a ban policy for kill stealing. It is not rude to camp a mob over and over, it is common practice.

Heck i've camped these named for pages beofore for 6+ toons its a 15 min timer and if someone c omes in who needs a page or two i normay let them get one i take on ethne they get the 3rd or i let them have the next two spawns i mean hell its 30 mins you can accualy get food in that time or go tot he bathroom or in some ppl's case....take a shower *trust me fug and Xiggie ic an smell you from here....* :P

On every EQ server you have played on it was not a 15 minute spawn.  The person has a 15 minute investment in time when he gets there.  The guy camping the mob for 6 toons has created a 3 hour investment of time.  While the person camping 6 mobs only has to sacrifice 15 minutes to allow someone to continue through on there advancement, he is asking everyone else to wait a 3 hour investment of time for there progression.  THAT is why he is wrong.  

And this arguement is also stupid because both can/could afford an instance and were not going through for the first time.  Both were for alts.

They should go back to griefing each other and stop wasting forum space.

Yeah, on most other servers it is much higher respawn timer. I am not even sure what your point was there. Hell on live I have seen items camped for days... by the same person.

Wait, this is getsum?  This guy was flaming in LDON 2 last night after he got himself killed.  He accused the entire zone of training him and when they all asked if he needed a rez or help he rage quit.  

Stop wasting others time, if you can't play nice make an instance

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Well on the live server Xiggie you could petition and the GM would force you to give up a spawn.  I know this is not live and I do not want to play on live.  I am saying there were advocates for you if you needed something.

Listen, I do not care for either of them.  I am just saying both parties should look in the mirror a bit.  Both were wrong, Goth was more wrong.

No they wouldn't, lol. Rights go to whoever was there first. On live, and any emu server I have ever played on I have never seen anyone forced to leave a spawn they were camping. Never have I ever known a time this happen.

I have had to do it and many other have as well.  I played EQ post Kunark and for 9 years after.  A GM would come and force a loot/spawn list.  If you were camping or 3 alts for instance on a 5 hour spawn and an alternate party came along along and whined enough, they would be forced to give the next spawn to the second group who did the whining for one spawn and then trade back and forth. 

Once again Xiggie, I don't care.  If you want the last word or something, just say so and I will stop replying.  Whatever makes your day.

When you have a real point to make instead of just making shit up I will be happy to resume discussing it. About replying and all that jazz, prolly a good time to stop, cause making stuff up and then trying to patronize me is just going to make you look like a fool.

Kilethin would be my name.  The bard that went back into LDON 2 and tried to rez you after you screamed at him for 20 minutes.  I understand you did the exact same thing to Hachiko.

This is geting out of control.

Xiggie, you just never used the resources provided to you.  Cool, I don't CARE.  I just want to play on the fun server.

Getsum, work on your social skills.

Me, I am shuting up

Most intelligent thing I have heard you say

I was helping someone get tokens in qvic the other day, the only piece I needed was the silk robe, and I made that explicit - he could have everything else except that robe.

Within 20 minutes a robe drops and he looted it. I /ooc'd it  and took a screenshot. I'm not sure whether to post the screen or not, that same day I got the qvic robe + a tacvi robe that someone let me have.

Anyways there are ninja looters so be careful, but I should have seen the warning signs!

Whether you post the screenshot or not, you should let people know who it was, so we can be warned.  I try to help people whenever I can, and I don't want to waste my time furthering the efforts of a known asshat.

You are right. What makes it bad is that I was helping him, would hate it to happen to someone else.

I checked the screenshot, it just shows his name when he is looting it.

His name is Loyejem.

I tried to post the screenshot but it says the file is too large.

Give me a break.  A rez at page 1 ldon? Being right there within a minute to offer such a helping hand? Its like, 3 rooms from entrance, and I'd be without buffs and have rez fx, and the shitty thing was I just got there and killed the boss, and while getting my gf to loot for her toon, she died during the wipe.  I spent the time calming her down, tyvfm.  She went in to loot her page, and was telling someone off.
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Those would be those social skills I was talking about

I can't figure out the qoute thing

Not on Bristlebane, thats for sure.  I played on Bristlebane long ass time ago and maybe we just had a different type of GM but they never ever ever ever forced you to give up a spawn.  first come, first serve.  didn't matter how much you complained.   If someone was at a camp, it was theirs no matter how long they were there.   If someone would complain, they would get laughed at.    Best thing you could do was to be nice and hope the group would send you a tell when they were done.    Now I do remember a certain boss though that caused everyone grief and the GM had to come out many times in order to make guilds play nice with each other but other than that no one would ever make you share a camp.

Looks like we have a nomination for the Charlie Sheen Award.

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Im in that screenshot posted by Xiggie. Totally famous.

Wheres the screenshot of the guy spamming about fingers in obama's butthole? I thought xiggie said he got screenshots of that.

pretty sure he sent it directly to hunter

Another Great Name!

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Ok so I have a toon named "Richard Cranium"  You all think that is ok or do I need to change teh surname?  I find its not seriously offensive but pretty funny personally.  If people are gonna take offence though I will gladly change the name.

I personally think that should be fine, not alot of people in game gonna see it and think Dick head ..... i found it funny myself so i might be a little bias.

http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Forkoff

Clearly slang for Fuckoff. Sent to Hunter as well.

What about the name Phukker.... They won't shut up in OOC

It seems that there are allot of potential "bad" names are staying on , some should be dropped, IMO

Sent to Hunter.

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lol

Creativity +10 for that last name... to say the least.

You're joking, right?

Gives ya a tiny giggle.. because of how downright stupid it is.

Got a toon i dont really play, but thought i may need to rename if i do. Names Fuqit Iquit. Meant as a joke but if it would be offensive, i can delete him and remake when i do decide to work him up. personally i thought it funny, but thats just me. What you guys think?

If it gets reported, and it prolly would, it would prolly get banned. Would be better to just start a new toon.

Hunter won't rename it, might as well reroll. I will report it with Screenshot When I see it if that makes you feel better, it is not funny it is lame

this guy REALLY needs a bit of class added to his humor =/

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Send it to Hunter and provide a link to his magelo.

haha when i saw that guy i thought about this thread

Man, it must be so fucking boring living in the world you live in Fugitive./ Stop being such a wiseass shithead and go out of your retard cave for a bit. Fucking ingrate idiot who can't see a joke from offense.

You just called the majority of the server a wiseass shithead who lives in a retard cave as nearly everyone on the server feels the same way about idiotic names.

You dont have to worry about Phukker much anymore. He moved to Honduras and does not have the bandwidth to play on EZ on the island. We both worked pretty hard on him, so it would be nice to keep him in the character select. Thanks!

It's quite obvious nearly everyone on the server don't feel this way or this forum topic would be a LOT more popular with different kinds of names. But it isn't. It's same people posting same boring shit over and over. Let me go over the last 5 pages of reports and see how many TRULY wrong, utterly ban-deserving names there are.

Woah. 5 pages of nothing. "What about the name Phukker.... They won't shut up in OOC", even that one is a long-shot, stretching it a bit thin. All the others, are either funny, stupid or lame (combination of all three is probable with the Bukkake Commander), but that doesn't quite fit into the "banhammer policy" as far as the rules themselves are concerned. Unless ofcourse, you're actually offended by anything that's even remotely unlike your own name.

But, since this is player based reporting, I think the name Xiggie is offensive to me, every time i read it in chat, I get a retching fit and need to go puke. Why the hell didn't Hunter ban that kind of offensive name yet?

See what I did thar?

Are you serious? If you honestly believe what you are posting then you are fucking stupid. That is what I think thar. I am not even going to go over the names that were banned, and I am not even going to go over the last however many pages because it is extremely obvious you are just trolling. What you said is so far out landish and unbelievable that if anyone was even possibly stupid enough to believe it they would have forgotten how to breath by now.

So now that we have that settled, you're a living breathing human being and therefore not stupid enough to believe what you just posted, whats your problem?

I don't have to be "fucking stupid" to be a bit more tolerant than the average bear. Were you raised in a lab clean environment with no germs, no garbage, no dirt, no swear words or any kinds of bad influences? Because, unless you were, there's no reason at ALL that you can be THAT intolerant of all the funny shit that's in all the possible MMO games. Including EverQuest.

So stop being a 6 year old child and grow the fuck up.

The majority of the server, Hunter included do not feel that way. That should tell you something right there. Where you were born, be it in a lab or in the projects has nothing to do with common sense. 37 pages and every once in a while you have an idiot that comes along with the same views as yourself. What is so hard to figure out that the majority of the server does not want these idiotic names?

Speak for yourself. As long as racial garbage stays out, let's see some amusement.

-Hate

you can't have it both ways it's all or none.. you know that

Fortunately the majority of the people believe that the stuff that violates the naming policy that Hunter enforces is not amusing. I've seen this server when there has been lax enforcement of the rules. You get people in ooc just talking as nasty as they can get it, racial, sexual, any way they can find to be offensive just to get a rise out of people. Before someone even says it, not responding and not giving a rise to the bs does not result in those things going away, it just gets worse and worse. Finally you end up with Hunter spending a stupid amount of time dealing with garbage clean up on the server. The best way to avoid all that is preventative maintenance. Preventing people from polluting the server with idiotic names/language.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but because this is NOT an 18+  server, the basic rule should be that REASON should be used in naming toons and the topic / conversations should be responsibly edited by the "adult" users so the text should / not offend young ones.    .......Knowing that allot of the rotten text is indeed caused by said kids....and the toon names are from the same, except for a few "adults" that seem to get a kick out of showing the lower end of their base moral insight.....
  Not a preacher, but sometimes I wonder where common sense went to....jm2c
   flame on

If someone is looking for attention via bad words, bad names, or bad language, then they need to go to another server cause the bottom line is that I hold the ban stick and don't really care about excuses why someone thinks they should be able to do that stuff.

Be that as it may, I still don't agree with Xiggie who has less tolerance than a bat hanging upside down in a cave 3000 feet below ground. The way stuff appears is that he's LOOKING for names that MIGHT be in some remote batshit way related to something that's either bad, offensive or racist just so he can get his fling out and justify the player police.

Talk about having blinders on... Way to dismiss the server owner/admin so you could get back to slamming Xiggie.

BTW, which of the recent additions to the list is it that you think is ok...  The guy who has a toon called Fuqit Iquit, or the guy who named his toon after a bunch of guys jerking off?

It's pretty obvious to me that Hunters intentions might be different but that the people who post on this thread are just rules lawyering and trying to harass people. I've seen some of these very people break the same rules they proclaim to be offended by in /ooc.

On a personal level as an American citizen I think that any prevention of free speech is obscene. I  think that there should be some expectation of personal responsibiliy for parents as well.

 Everquest has never and will never be a safe environment for children. As someone who started playing online when I was 15 when there was a substantially higher amount of enforcement I believe that no matter the effort someone will find a way to expose children to things their parents want to shield them from.  

Again I think that while the intentions Hunter has with this may be "good" the result is that people will take this as an opportunity to prevent other people from enjoying themselves under the guise that those players are doing the same thing to them.


Edit: A good example is happening right now. I logged in right after posting this to see Skeezy and Borsh talking about fucking kids and rape in ooc . I suppose they won't be reported because they're a little more established which is why I personally find this rule futile.

My "tolerance" is the only one that matters, and actually I've let a lot of things slide on here. Anything that is blatantly nasty, sexist, or racist will just be banned, simple as that. Anyone that does that stuff usually expects to get banned anyways. Not that often you see anyone investing enough time to get full T5+ with foul names/language. If you want to practice free speech on my server then go some where else or I'll practice my ban stick.

Xiggie is just trying to keep the sever that he has played on for so many years nice and friendly. Hi Fugitive you still a douche?

I believe this about sums it up. This is Hunter's server, and Hunter's rules. Nobody, myself included runs the show but Hunter. If I tried to use the rules to be a naming nazi or any other kind of asshat I am sure hunter would ban my ass too. That includes if I got into ooc and started talking about racist stuff or rape or any other kind of really nasty crap.

Thanks for the new sig Hunter.

Obviously I'm not going to benefit from discussing this. I follow the rules, I just wanted to make it evident that not everyone on the server feels the same way after being lumped in with "the majority".

I didn't lump the entire server. The majority means most, not all. Kudos though for following rules you don't agree with.

Durr

Here's 2 more fantastic canidates to add to the list.

Saw a wood elf guy named "Fagget" in SFG, didn't have a chance to get a screenshot before he left though.

Similar matter has already been discussed at yahoo answers. I can post the link if needed

Why in the hell would someone name themselves Fuzynutz? And then go so far as to get yourself to 4.5, UC and RoA 68? How stupid.

http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Fuzynutz

Thats just another prime example of the wannabe " bad " name players who do not take the 2 minutes to read the rules.

Hey Xiggie

I'm not so sure on this one.

In Australia - a Fuzynut (or Fuznut) refers to someone with their head shaved with a blade one clipper (kind of like a Military haircut).  I can appreciate that that's a local thing and perhaps I'm the only person on the server who has that reading.

I've also heard the term used to describe Squirrels.

I can also see that in the online Urban Dictionary (ref. below), the term "Fuzzynuts" has two readings:
1.  Also known as "the man in the corner office". Often refering to the highest ranking exec. or decision maker.
Let me go ask ol' fuzzy nuts if we can get off of work early.

2.  A guy who lurks around Canada looking for things to photograph
Hey Sofa, is that Fuzzy Nuts behind you, look he has a camera.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuzzy%20nuts (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuzzy%20nuts)

I guess I didn't automatically think of "Fuzy Testicles" the first time I saw his name which makes me question the degree of severity in the name itself.

Really, I'm not sure this process of publicly ridiculing poor name choices is the best way to promote harmony on the server. 

It feels a little aggressive perhaps? 

It also feels a tad immature on our part.  I guess I'm not a fan of stooping.  I get that the person who chooses to name themselves poorly is usually having a momentary lapse of childishness - but to answer in kind always seems to lead to ugly, negative, public displays that don't really serve any purpose (aka. Flamewars).

Is it possible to have a bot somewhere on the server that can change character names as an alternative?  At least that way the person in question can be spoken to privately first before a public shaming (not that I think that's ever an answer)?  If the bot took a log of the name changes (and ip addresses) it would stop people from maliciously using it.  I don't know - I guess I feel we should give them an opportunity to do the right thing first.  If the bot isn't possible then perhaps a private email to Hunter could be a better option on our part as opposed to the public flogging?

Just some thoughts anyway :)
Strix

Amendment to my comment in the post above.

I just saw in the Urban Dictionary that there is a definition of "Fuzzynut" that is quite offensive. 
See: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fuzzynut (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fuzzynut)

Sorry Xiggie - the first time I've seen that particular definition.  If people are reading that into the name then it needed to be changed. 

I do wonder, however, if that was the user's intented definition when he named his toon.  My experience with Fuzy on the server has been nothing but positive.  He always came across to me as a helpful soul with a good sense of humour.  I am sorry to see that his toon has been deleted and that people may have read that definition into his name. 

Strix makes a couple of very good points here.

This thread is useful for quickly dealing with problem names. When the cost of a mistake is deleting a hard-earned 4.5, UC, RoA68 character however...I can't help but agree with Strix in that we need a serious reevaluation of this process.

The rules simply state 'no bad words.' In my opinion the only names that should ever be posted in this thread blindly are those that literally break this rule. This server is populated from cultures all around the globe, there are going to be mishaps and unintended offenses. The idea that one person who misunderstands a name can embarrass another player and have that person's character deleted is unacceptable.

EZPlayers please remember that Hunter's time is limited: when posting a character name it's your responsibility to verify that rules are being broken. And perhaps in border-line cases such as this, think twice before posting at all.

TBH I dont see anything wrong with Fuzynutz...but then I've seen the reference used in many context.

Fuzy musta been getting too close to getting into tier 6. I hope I never step on any toes in any way once I get that far...I'd hate to get all that time deleted for no reason  :-\

Hunters time is limited. That is why when someones name violates the rules and it is brought to his attention he is not going to spend his time chasing them down and asking them what name the want and what-not. He bans the offensive name, plain and simple. Let me give you an example of how this rule even effected me. I was given use of a character named Phukker (http://www.ezserver.online/magelo/character.php?char=Phukker). Go ahead and say it out-loud, it is pretty obvious. To add to it the last name is Phace. I was given access to this character when I only had 1 UC and was in the process of filling out T3/4 gear. If you see from the magelo this toon has a UC and his 4.0 and is nearly all T4. This toon doubled my survivability. It took me a few days to even realize the name meant what it did. It just didn't dawn on me. After I realized it I stopped using the toon because it does very clearly violate the naming policy and how hypocritical would it be if I knowingly used a character that violated the naming policy. I did ask Hunter about the possibility of a name change if I could get the owner to ask for it and I was given the same answer everyone else is given. No. I could have continued to use the character until it was reported. I chose not to even though it hurt my group a lot.

I don't report names because I am some ninny bitch naming nazi. Rules are rules and they are put there for a reason. Every time that certain rules start getting ignored we end up with vulgar and childish atmosphere. Training is one of those rules. Naming is another of those rules. Language is yet another one.

If I created a Vah Shir toon named it Pussy and insisted that I mean pussy as in cat one could argue that it didn't violate the naming policy. The character I am sure would still be banned. Pussy referencing a cat isn't even unconventional, it's pretty common knowledge. It is also common knowledge that it refers to female anatomy. It's not a stretch, especially being the race of the toon to come up with the cat meaning but it is also not a stretch to come up with the vulgar meaning. Fuzynutz may have other meanings but it also very clearly is a reference to male anatomy.

I don't go around hunting people who are getting close to any content on the server to get them banned to keep them off my playground. Any suggestion to the contrary is just ignorant. I have not even reported the name to Hunter directly which is usually what it takes. Why haven't I reported him? Because damn man, he has a UC, a 68 ring and 4.5. The 4.5 means he has some bosses down in T5. It would suck for something like that to get banned. I can't speak for Hunter but I would gamble that if it is reported it will likely be banned. If I had my preference it wouldn't be banned because of how far along he is. But if someone reads this and chooses not to name their toon something they might get banned for then that's a good thing.

In law enforcement we have an issue called - reasonable standard.  I.E. what would the average person do/react/think in a similar situation.....really its all common sense...but naybe common sense just isnt too common /shrug

Is 'Alecoholic' an offensive name?

I have never heard of the name and it sounds like a made up word. If I saw it in game I would think nothing of it.

Looks like the toon formerly known as Fuzynutz, Is dead, gone, and deleted. No clue who the guy is... Feel bad for the guy tho. By my "post count" you can tell I rarely speak up. But that toon getting deleted is bullshit. It is what it is tho. Never reading this thread again, what a way to ruin a guys' day. Come home to relax n play some good ol eq, and find out your 4.5 uc'd roa whatever number it was, was deleted cuz someone doesn't like your name after at least a good 6 months of playing...wow.

It isn't that *someone* got offended by a name, it is that the name violates the rules. Plain and simple. It does not have a damn thing to do with what I like or don't like, it has everything to do with the rules. Btw, I am damn near positive that person got a name change, probably because of how far along they are. Simple search and I found another sk with a lvl 68 ring on that fits with the name scheme.

Hey Xiggie

You kind of avoided the point :)

In themselves, "Fuzy" and "Nutz" are not offensive and don't violate any rules.  Together, it seems almost like every American see's a reference that the rest of the world needs a moment to think about.

There is nothing plain and simple about this one.

Your reference to the use of the word "pussy" wasn't the best analogy to make in reference to this case.  The term "Pussy" is in the universal common vernacular as a reference to female genatalia. 

No one would/could miss that (thanks the saturation of US media worldwide).

I think I have a better analogy for you to consider:  "QuoitLover".  I've used this term (in my youth) in America and had to spend time explaining it.  American's universally fail to see the offensive nature of the word (simply because it's not common vernacular for you).  Firstly, the common understand (in the US) of the word "Quoit" is:
1.
quoits, ( used with a singular verb ) a game in which rings of rope or flattened metal are thrown at an upright peg, the object being to encircle it or come as close to it as possible.
2.
a ring used in the game of quoits.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quoits?s=ts (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quoits?s=ts)

In Australia (and England), we have two spellings for the word (but in all applications they mean the same thing):  Quoit and Coit.  Both words can be used to describe the game.  Both words can also be used in this context:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coit (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coit)

The spelling of "Coit" is usually found on toilet doors (spelled by people with poor literacy skills).

You get the idea. 

So now we name a toon "Quoitlover" in a US based game and none of the American player base doesn't think anything of the name until an Aussie or Brit raises the issue in a public slinging match. 

Hyperthetically, people start arguing that the term is not offensive because the universal (US centric) understanding of the word is not offensive (and that it refers to the love of a game and not something else).  39 pages of ugly debate later and all we've really achieved is disharmony and ill feeling on the forums (and in game).

This thread is an ugly, dark side of the server (and the game) that exposes problems with the server that should best be dealt with in private to Hunter.  If there is an issue then it should be sent in an email and not posted in the spirit of publicly slandering other players.

My thoughts anyway.
Strix

Nuts are nuts in England, they are nuts in US and they are even nuts in Australia. In both, (and other english speaking countries) there are three common interpretations of the word nuts. One being the food, as in peanuts or walnuts. Another being going crazy. The other being those two little round appendages hanging out between most every males legs. Fuzynutz together gives no alternate meanings beyond further describing something about the nuts. I am going to go out on a limb here and but I dare Fuzynutz is not referring to hair growing off of some walnuts.

Pussy is a very good analogy. Pussy refers to male genitalia yet has another meaning, nuts refer to male genitalia yet has another meaning. I have never heard of QuoitLover. In your post you suggest that most Americans have not either. Now that is a bad analogy as it is cultural. Fuzynutz? You can go to any english speaking country and start asking people if they have any fuzynutz and they are going to know you are being vulgar.

It is common sense that Fuzynutz breaks the rules.

Not true - ask that question here and people will point you to a Military base.

To be clear about the point you keep dodging - you shouldn't be posting images of characters with "offensive" names with the intention of publically ridiculing the owner.  There is no debate about the need to report "offensive" names (cultural or universal) to the one person who matters on the server.  That there is an "offensive" reading of the name 'Fuzynutz" is not in question.  The act of putting those images up to begin with is disrespectful, demeaning, belittling and outright cyber bullying.

We need a better process than this thread.
Strix

.. Since when do "Using kids gloves" fix things(on EZ)? When we are dealing with clowns that just push and push and push the limits of every rule.

As for ridiculing and this cyber bullying that is untrue the pics get posted, normal players are made aware of players who have made very poor choices and it's done some get the stick some don't.

You always are very level headed to me in every interaction I have engaged with you in. I just feel you are just upset cause this was a guild-mate, I would be too. Xiggie had access to a character decently built(at the time) with jacked up name that he refused to play due to the naming and consent and attitude for the rules here.

I'm not getting in on this fuzynutz convo

Other then that GAME ON!! gotta farm more spells

Cyberbullying someone because I exposed someone for choosing a name the clearly violates the rules? Dude you are reaching. That is about like getting into a fight and then suing because someone's face broke your fist. Names created to violate the naming policy are inherently controversial and anything controversial attracts attention. If you don't want to be stared at, don't dye your hair pink. This thread is exactly what is needed to discourage people from breaking the rules. That could be why it is the second most popular thread on the server.

I think you said that you live in Australia? I could be wrong about the location but that's inconsequential. Are you really honestly saying that where you live when people say fuzynutz they think of a military base? Are you honestly saying that saying fuzynutz does not suggest hairy balls where you live? Are you sure you want to get behind that statement?

Cyberbullying? Are you friggen serious man? Did someone hack your account?

Xiggie...for once in your life just shut up and drop it.  Yes, in Australia 'Fuzynutz' isn't what it is here.  In England a 'fag' is a cigarette.  In Italy and eggplant is...something that's a racial slur towards blacks that I'm not going to put here.  Even in America different places have different names for things...Sub, hoagie, sandwich, poboy, hero, grinder, etc.  Soda in one place is something totally different than soda is another place (you're likely going to end up with either club soda or a root beer float instead of a glass of cola).  With as much time as you spend in front of your computer I'd figure you would learn something about different places but I guess not.

Nuts are nuts no matter where you are at, trying to say otherwise is just forcing it. But thank you faildan. Your speaking up shows people even more how ridiculous it sounds to say that nuts aren't nuts in Australia. Whatever happen to those posts about you screaming out praise for the IRA and wanting to blow up people in England?

You sure do love to watch yourself type, don't you?  Do you have some special program that flashes tits on your screen whenever you talk out of your ass?  Seriously...grow up and learn to let shit go, you'll be much happier.

This whole argument is pointless.  If Hunter doesn't like a name the banhammer comes down, doesn't matter what it means in East Angola.

Sorry dude, that shit about the IRA and blowing up people in England for living in England is pretty unforgettable. It also permanently ruins your credibility. Should have done a name change.

A small word to the wise: The majority of the players on this server are American.  Everyone in the world is welcome here, it just happens to be that America makes up the biggest portion of the community.

That being said, if you know the majority is American, perhaps you should take into consideration how they might interpret a particular saying or phrase.

I'm not saying you must bow down, but be smart and put a little thought into what you are naming yourself.  So what if some guys who are named Richard go by the name Dick, name your toon anything with "Dick" in it, and it's gonna get reported.  It's not a hard equasion to figure out.

I wanna report this guy...

for being delicious!

http://spotteddick.net/

Yes.  You or anyone else posting in a public place with the intention to expose, shame, ridicule and/or belittle is bullying. The result of posting, as 39 pages attests, is that people get upset, hurt, inflamed and offended.  To make it worse, It's unclear, in many instances, even if Hunter is reading this thread and/or cares.  

Saying that Hunter hasn’t got the time to deal with “offensive” names to justify a bullying solution to the situation does not put you on the moral high ground.  

I get they did the wrong thing to begin with (thus your motivation to post) and that we need a solution.

This isn’t it.

100% true.  In the end, Hunter just needs a list of names to adjudicate over.  This could be handled in emails – or a complaints BOT located in a central area.  

In the end – it’s the public spectacle of all this that doesn’t sit right with me I guess.

  

Well I am sorry it doesn't sit well with you and you can call it whatever you want but I will continue to post names on here. Want to call me a bully? I have no problem with being labeled a bully for pointing it out when someone chooses a name like the names that litter this thread. Shame is a part of consequence when you do something wrong. Embarrassment is a part of consequence when you do something wrong. This isn't like me pointing at a kid in the second grade and saying ewww he farted. This is me pointing out someone who blatantly violated the naming rules.

Accusing me of trying to take some high moral ground is a poor assumption that you're making. I've never said that I put names on here because Hunter does not have the time to deal with it. Every time I have ever sent anything to Hunter I have always gotten a response. I put peoples name here because, well if you want to choose an idiotic name lets let everybody see your jackass name. Which by the way you have drawn a lot more light to by insisting that people who violate the naming rules are being cyberbullied when they are called out for violating the naming rules.

Like I said, if you don't want people to stare at you, don't dye your hair pink. I do thank you for the idea on the new avatar though.

I do wonder about these rules Xiggie given your statements above:


I appreciate that these rules apply mainly in-game, but there is a sentiment there never-the-less. 

I’m not sure what part of Play Nice fits with:

And…


Statements like these and the one below certainly begin to walk the line of admitting you are going out of your way to “grief” people (regardless of your opinion that they “deserve” it):
And thus the Bullying on your part begins.  So too does a breaking of the rules.  You label the person a “Jackass”.  You claim they are “idiotic” and you are reduced to name calling.  Sorry – what was your point again aside from looking hypocritical? 

If there was a lesson to teach the childish player who named a toon poorly, it’s now being missed as you violate their rights.

As lerxst2112 states:

I agree with you 100% on one front Xiggie:  There needs to be a system whereby we can report breaches of the rules.

I just think we can find a better (less hypocritical) way to do it.  If that’s an email system or Complaints BOT it removes the bullying component out of the equation and makes the process more impartial.  A person breaks the rules and the consequences are fairly straight forward.

 As you put it:

Let’s make this plain and simple Xiggie.  Remove the ugly thread that serves no purpose in the equation you outline above and stop all the negative feelings that are conjured by attacks and counter-attacks that litter this thread.

BTW - I do apologise if I misquoted you above: It was taken from your sentence in this post here:
Final thoughts:

Just as the person who murders the rapist is still a murderer.

Xiggie – we can’t control the children who do the wrong thing in the first instance.  We can only be responsible for our own actions after the fact.  When we “call-out” people for violating the rules we have a number of options presented to us in how to do that.  Choosing to publicly bully (and shame) a person is a cowardly act that is worse than violating a toon naming rule. 

I feel we can do better.
Strix

Did someone hack your account? I thought you had more sense than this. According to what you just said anytime anyone breaks the rules and we report it and/or post it on the forums we are bullying and harassing them. Again according to what you said anytime a journalist reports anything negative about someone they are harassing and bullying them. I am sorry but that is bullshit. It is just fishing for a way to say I am breaking the rules. Trust me, if this was breaking the rules I would have been banned a long long time ago. Saying that I am breaking the rules by posting on the forums about someone else breaking the rules is just plane stupid. Hell by that measure Hunter should have been banned a long time ago for banning people because banning people sure as hell ruins their game. Public shame and embarrassment has long been a consequence of doing something wrong and does not violate anyone's rights. Violated someone's rights for posting a naming violation on the forums? Wtf dude.

There is a way to report rule violations. Send an email to Hunter and post it on the forums. Works pretty well to considering this is the second most popular thread. This thread does serve a purpose. I guarantee you there have been a lot of people who re-thought their toons names based off this thread. Wait a minute, I think I know someone who actually refrained from using a toon that violated the naming policy in part because of this thread... oh yeah, that's right, it's me.

Posting on the forums about someone breaking the rules is cowardly? Wow, there must be a huge amount of cowardly people on this server because again, this the second most popular thread on the forums.  I can't get over how stupid that statement is. That has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's courage or lack thereof. And if it was worse than breaking the naming rules... like I said earlier, I would be banned long long ago.

I have violated, nor even come close to violating no rules by publicly posting how someone has violated the rules.

Sorry just butting in to this madness!

Either way.. its best to agree to disagree!

we don't need no like buttons, ya?

Given what we’re talking about – those two sentences are funny.


Xiggie – the posts in this thread aren’t just simple innocent reports (like you would see in a newspaper) about someone breaking the rules as you try to suggest.  Occasionally they are, but often they’re images with text of a defamatory nature and then accompanied by a host of people who want to add their two cents.   We get awful personal attacks that look something like this (but in a lot of instances, way worse):
 
And the rest of us are meant to passively sit by and watch this unfold.  In fact – if we have an opinion about how disgusting this all looks we put ourselves in the crosshairs.   Hell Xiggie – even suggesting a more decent way to handle this gets your back up and whips you into a frenzy. 

Again – if it was a simple matter of reporting a transgression then you would be right.  But the thread stands with vitriolic personal attacks that take it to a whole other level.  We depart from simple reporting (as you suggest) and we enter a darker place.
It’s a place where the dominant voice suggests:

With an underlying ideology that believes that:

You’re right when you say:
 
The suggestion is to email Hunter (or create a complaints BOT) and remove posting here on these forums (where the idea of simple reporting inevitably gets twisted and corrupted).

But apparently this idea has no merit because the sport of public shame and embarrassment is “popular” with the server.  And I’m now nuts (“crazy”, not “testicles”) for even having the temerity to suggest that the way we’ve been doing things could do with a review.

Really Xiggie – you were better when you were being honest earlier:

You weren’t trying to downplay anything then or twist perceptions.  I think at this juncture, perhaps Paldail provides the best advice:

Strix

A : Are you nuts ?
B : Do I look like 2 balls in a bag to you ?

So you mean everyone named Dick can go kill themselves ?

Boy : come on pussy ~
Mom : *SLAP*

As Strix says more or less the negativity cheapens us wether it is the action itself or attacking the action. Got a problem? Take it to hunter, leave it off the boards. In my years here, I have never encountered anyone that truly caused me enough greif that I felt the need to post. I think rarely does trouble find you, more like you seek it out. You being not directed at anyone.

Lmfao, every quote you gave of me insulting someone were all insults to people who were not reported on this thread.

Strix I have enjoyed the casual friendship/admiration we have had for each other. So much so that I hope it endures this thread. Agreeing to disagree I think is a really good idea.

Likewise my friend :)

Strix

PS - still don't like this thread but  :P

EZ Server is already a small community. Xiggie, if you wan do good stuff for the server, you should be getting more ppl into the server and not getting ppl out of the server by bringing up small issues like bad names, unless they are really bad.

so if can answer me, Does everyone who called Dick just because daddy thinks that his boy looks like a penis ?

I have been playing on this server for four years or so. I have seen the naming policy relaxed at this time or that and I have seen the lower maturity level that it brings with it. If a name gets banned it is not because I dislike it, it is because it violates the naming policy that HUNTER put in place. Coming up with inventive ways to try to circumvent the naming policy is not going to earn you cool points, it will just earn you a ban. As for server population, this server has the highest average population of any of the custom servers. You assume that allowing people to name their toons whatever they want would increase our numbers, I have seen the opposite.

Sorry, i didnt know how to quote

I have seen the naming policy relaxed at this time or that and I have seen the lower maturity level that it brings with it.
>> So what's wrong with Fuzynutz? Will Dick gets ban if he had "Dick Head_is_Painful" ? when Mr Dick actually wanna express that his head hurts ?

If a name gets banned it is not because I dislike it
>> But it seems like you are thinking that Fuzynutz IS hair balls ? just like you are thinking that Dick is a penis instead of a name.

As for server population, this server has the highest average population of any of the custom servers.
>> i'm boxing like 6 and my friend 6 or 7, are you seriously thinking that EZserver have like 2~300 players ? Try 50~80.

You assume that allowing people to name their toons whatever they want would increase our numbers, I have seen the opposite.
>> i didnt encourage people to name their toons whatever they wanted, itsl like i believe you are not a junior high skool kid, you should learn to let things go.

P.S.

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w281/Xiggie/14172612.jpg)

Xiggie means 吸sxxk雞cxxk in Asia. meaning you should get a ban too ?

yeah asia is a language all by it self.../ sad.    Dude quit being "that" guy. Your points don't even trend well together..

lol you win, no matter what :)
anyway, peace all.. time to log in soon :)

I speak America.. and if you dont like it .. then you can geeeeeeeeeet ooooout!!

Moron! Evrabuddy noes its "Muhrikan"

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w281/Xiggie/7.gif)

The whole point of the current argument was 'don't whine in public about it, just email Hunter'.  We don't even know that he reads this thread every time he is online (and after this conversation, will most likely intentionally avoid it because it's just full of drama now).  I know it's REALLY hard for you to do, but be the bigger man, shut the hell up, and just start emailing him offensive/inappropriate names and let him decide.  From your tone in this entire conversation it's pretty evident that you believe you actually have a say in what is or isn't allowed on the server.  Hell, if Hunter decides he doesn't like the name Xiggie because it shows up on urbandictionary (btw, a REALLY awful, un-credible source for this stuff), as synonymous with a child predator and a bunch of other awful things, you're going to fight it tooth and nail.  Just shut up. 

Faildan your a dumb idiot. I do email Hunter when I find a name that violates the naming policy. I doubt Hunter does read this, I don't put names in here to report them to Hunter. I put them in here to report them to the server. Yeah, I do this to publicly humiliate people for being a jackass. That's all part of the consequences.

...and that makes YOU a total jackass.  People training, ninja looting, whatever else...awesome, report it to the server...with one post on what happened then shut your slimy little mouth about it.  As for loading up this thread with names that 'you' think are inappropriate?  For fuck's sake SHUT UP! If you see a name, just email it and be done with it.  The rest of us can either 1) see the names ourselves and will report it if we also deem necessary, 2) play with names off and will never see it anyway unless the person is talking in ooc, 3) are mature enough to just not give a shit (I know this last concept is nearly impossible for the middle-aged manchildren that make up <RAGE>, but try it, ok?)

PS- Dumb idiot?  Really?  Exactly how many of your relatives hold more than one relation title in your family?

PPS- Your =/= you're.  I find your blatant misuse of the English language while you claim to be a native of the country highly offensive, can I report that?  Fucktard.

Faildan you're an idiot on this server and you're an idiot on p99 too. No matter where you go, no one likes you. This thread serves a lot of purpose, none of which I care to explain to you any farther. Even if you did agree with it you wouldn't do so publicly because there is no attention in it for you. Go play out in the street.

Just right quick Trydaneq, listen to me for a second.

I do have a screen shot of the post you deleted with the hate and racism on the forums. Quit this nonsense or I'll just link that picture and show everyone what you really said. I'll just email Hunter that SS.

I don't think you should be allowed on the forums on the game for what you posted in the past, did I send it to Hunter? Nope I have some part of me that says you can redeem yourself some how, some way. But going on and on and on like this over and over isn't moving in the right direction. Game wise you seem to have changed and are given back to the server. The ball is in your court what is your action?