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[Rostam]

[sohami]

Only a 500 dmg increase?

Yeah, its lame, but why complain when you're already the leetest class exponentially?

And on another note.. how do you get that purple/pink text and light blue on your examine windows?

[lerxst2112]

This came from a discussion about the difference between the two anger procs.  Rostam says they both have a hate component where others say that Anger V does not.

I checked both spell files available for download, SoF and Titanium and I don't see any hate mod on Anger V.  Of course, only Hunter know what's actually in the database.

[zomgDanyelle]

What's in the spell file is what's in the database. Exact same thing as the two must match up. If it's not in the spell file it's not there at all.

[Otaduke]

So is there a need for 4 War epics if they are the same only the V has more damage?

[Loyal]

So is there a need for 4 War epics if they are the same only the V has more damage?

Yes - One has AE dmg the other is DD.

Good thing you pointed this out Rostam - I can throw IVs back on my DPS warriors since it makes little difference.

[Isaaru]

Anger V DOES NOT have a hate component.  Home slice has the wrong spell file.

This is taken directly from the spell file used by Hunter:

Code:

9972^Anger IV^PLAYER_1^^^^Your head snaps back.^'s face contorts with rage and takes damage.^^200^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^125000^-1500^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^1500^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^2503^2130^-1^-1^-1^-1^1^1^1^1^-1^-1^-1^-1^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^0^0^0^0^92^0^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^5^0^5^-1^0^0^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^44^0^0^12^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^100^0^105^177^0^-1000^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^100^0^-99^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^-1^0^0^0^1^0^0^1^1
9973^Anger V^PLAYER_1^^^^Your head snaps back.^'s face contorts with rage and takes damage.^^0^35^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^-1000^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^1000^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^2503^2130^-1^-1^-1^-1^1^1^1^1^-1^-1^-1^-1^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^100^0^0^0^0^254^0^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^254^4^0^5^-1^0^0^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^255^44^0^0^12^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^100^0^105^177^0^-1000^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^100^0^-99^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^0^-1^0^0^0^1^0^0^1^1

Notice the lack of a 125000 field in the Anger V?

[waerekrager]

i really dont see the need for 4 epics for warriors. i run 4 warriors and on my main tank i have 3 epics and in his thrid epic the one for holding agro i jsut put two anger 4's in it and it works like a chamr dont have ANY problem with a t2 or t3 boss switchign agro from him.

[Firetoad]

Keep in mind that even though the Anger V does not have an additional hate slot, like the Anger IV does, you still are producing over 1K of hate to anything that AE hits from the damage spell. Its base is 1K plus your hate mod on your epic, or if you have the belt from Qvic which has a 20% hate mod.

[Otaduke]

i really dont see the need for 4 epics for warriors. i run 4 warriors and on my main tank i have 3 epics and in his thrid epic the one for holding agro i jsut put two anger 4's in it and it works like a chamr dont have ANY problem with a t2 or t3 boss switchign agro from him.

Just so I understand all you really need is 3 epics.
2 with anger V augs and 1 with Anger IV in both slots?
When needing to maintain agro you just swap out one of the V with the 2x IV weapon.

[Demin]

Actually, I recommend 3 epics...two with 2 anger 4s and one with 2 anger 5. In t1 and up, you will be fighting a lot of single targets. Dual anger4 swords will produce the most damage. When you go back to do LDON or QVIC or whatever, just swap the dual anger5 sword into either main or offhand to get the AE proc. Works great.

[Loyal]

I still recommend 4. It gets things done twice as quick.

And if you talking about doing it for augs you can probably solo everything to get another epic in less than an hour. And then depending on your luck in the Banquet. . . That could blow - but worth it.

I think it makes a difference for early charm farming. The quicker you kill the mobs the less damage you take. Then again, nobody pulls more than 10 mobs (which is ez pz to tank all day).

[lerxst2112]

What's in the spell file is what's in the database. Exact same thing as the two must match up. If it's not in the spell file it's not there at all.

I respect your knowledge as a developer that has been doing this for a while, but in this case you're incorrect.  Ideally everything matches up, but, using this as a made up example, if there was a hate mod in that slot in the database but it wasn't in the spell file everything would still work just fine since the hate mod is only calculated on the server.

I still think Rostam has an old or messed up spell file and that there is no hate mod on Anger V.

[Chunka]

Pretty sure thats what they were saying.

Bottom line: put a warrior with 4 anger 5 augs on 2 epics on a mob (something with a lot of hps). Let it proc 5 or 6 times. Then let another warrior proc ONCE with an anger 4, and they will get agro every time. We tell the still developing warriors in our guild to use anger 5's til they get bigger, since its very hard for them to draw agro using 5's.

[Firetoad]

Pretty sure thats what they were saying.

Bottom line: put a warrior with 4 anger 5 augs on 2 epics on a mob (something with a lot of hps). Let it proc 5 or 6 times. Then let another warrior proc ONCE with an anger 4, and they will get agro every time. We tell the still developing warriors in our guild to use anger 5's til they get bigger, since its very hard for them to draw agro using 5's.

^This is great advice, and something I have been doing since I incorporated a second warrior into my team. Only the big gun needs the Anger IV aug, and only one will do, and the other warrior(s) use all Anger V augs.

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