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steelstorm
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« on: March 10, 2011, 03:36:46 pm »
Sorry if there is another thread about this I was in a rush and didn't have time to look around too much.

I just saw the link to the 4.5....are you kidding?  like 5 more ac and 1k more hp?

Just curious what everyone else is thinking about this.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 03:53:00 pm »
How many aug slots?
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 03:59:25 pm »
Good grief, seriously people already complaining? Are you really that much of a whiner?

It's kind of silly to complain about something you don't even have really, I'm not complaining. I'm sure it will change over time, just like everything else has.

Gunther 3 just like 4.0.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 04:02:27 pm »
Quote from: Crabthewall on March 10, 2011, 03:59:25 pm
Good grief, seriously people already complaining? Are you really that much of a whiner?

It's kind of silly to complain about something you don't even have really, I'm not complaining. I'm sure it will change over time, just like everything else has.

Gunther 3 just like 4.0.

whining and complaining?  that seems kind of ironic from the wording of your post.  I was simply asking what others thought.

Thanks
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 04:04:03 pm »
"Are you kidding" was your words not mine, does that not sound like whining - it certainly does to me

Again I'm the one that has the weapon - so I'm currently the only one impacted by it, and I'm not rushing off to the forums to complain about it, as I said I'm sure it will change over time like the others did.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 04:13:53 pm »
Quote from: Crabthewall on March 10, 2011, 04:04:03 pm
"Are you kidding" was your words not mine, does that not sound like whining - it certainly does to me

Again I'm the one that has the weapon - so I'm currently the only one impacted by it, and I'm not rushing off to the forums to complain about it, as I said I'm sure it will change over time like the others did.

Ya you certainly need an attitude adjustment or you obviously forgot to take your meds......either way adjusted or not as it may be in the future I'm just trying to think of the logic behind finding this an upgrade to an epic when the UPGRADE part does not even really exist.

And you will not be the only one impacted by it even though you are the one who has it now.  Are there any other 4.5's to compare to currently?  Just curious if it seems to be this way across the board and should be expected from others.

And to you crabthewall, I do not come here to post drama....look at my posts I almost never do because I'm usually in game enjoying it.  If you want to derail my thread and say I'm complaining because of all the BS that has gone on here lately go head, I'm not one of those people and honestly you can say or think what you want about me.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 04:16:16 pm »
Are you people kidding me? the guy just got the 4.5 and no one congrats on this post yet. Well Congrats Crab on your 4.5!!! As for it being changed if it does it does if it dont it dont. Its another step in the progression .
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 04:18:17 pm »
4.5 is for killing half the bosses, right?  and 5.0 for all 100?
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 04:37:59 pm »
Quote from: steelstorm on March 10, 2011, 04:13:53 pm
Quote from: Crabthewall on March 10, 2011, 04:04:03 pm
"Are you kidding" was your words not mine, does that not sound like whining - it certainly does to me

Again I'm the one that has the weapon - so I'm currently the only one impacted by it, and I'm not rushing off to the forums to complain about it, as I said I'm sure it will change over time like the others did.

Ya you certainly need an attitude adjustment or you obviously forgot to take your meds......either way adjusted or not as it may be in the future I'm just trying to think of the logic behind finding this an upgrade to an epic when the UPGRADE part does not even really exist.

And you will not be the only one impacted by it even though you are the one who has it now.  Are there any other 4.5's to compare to currently?  Just curious if it seems to be this way across the board and should be expected from others.

And to you crabthewall, I do not come here to post drama....look at my posts I almost never do because I'm usually in game enjoying it.  If you want to derail my thread and say I'm complaining because of all the BS that has gone on here lately go head, I'm not one of those people and honestly you can say or think what you want about me.

If you think your post wasn't complaining about it, then I'd suggest you read it again. My point was simply be PATIENT. You aren't impacted by it at this time, so give it some time. Not everything is perfect right off the bat, but making a thread about it isn't the best way of getting it solved - let alone by trying to stir the pot with inflammatory statements like "are you kidding".

The weapon is an upgrade - there is no stat on it less than the prior version. It's clearly not a downgrade - and let me be clear when I got the 4.0's some of those were indeed downgraded from the 3.0 (enchanter and cleric come to mind) Perhaps it isn't as much of an upgrade as you feel it should be, however - again this is where that patience comes in, those of us fighting in this zone and fighting the bosses know roughly how the balance sits already. Perhaps if the weapon was changed much it would change the fights too dramatically - this is where experience and time kicks in.

My point is simply - there is a right and a wrong way to get issues addressed and this isn't it. This will not help the situation, and there is no reason for you to do this. Hunter has enough on his plate as you can see lately on this forum without having to spend time on a weapon of which there is exactly one in existence at this time - again patience being the better part of discretion.

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 04:39:58 pm »
Quote from: Crabthewall on March 10, 2011, 03:59:25 pm


Gunther 3 just like 4.0.

Thanks, and congrats Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 04:42:19 pm »
Quote from: barrettd04 on March 10, 2011, 04:18:17 pm
4.5 is for killing half the bosses, right?  and 5.0 for all 100?

No to half that question, and I don't know to the other half.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 04:45:29 pm »
on a Light'r note Crab.... Grats man on success again =)

I may try my hand at this now, since im tired of the other zones for a bit, looking forward to T5 grind.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2011, 04:46:49 pm »
Quote from: Crabthewall on March 10, 2011, 04:37:59 pm
Quote from: steelstorm on March 10, 2011, 04:13:53 pm
Quote from: Crabthewall on March 10, 2011, 04:04:03 pm
"Are you kidding" was your words not mine, does that not sound like whining - it certainly does to me

Again I'm the one that has the weapon - so I'm currently the only one impacted by it, and I'm not rushing off to the forums to complain about it, as I said I'm sure it will change over time like the others did.

Ya you certainly need an attitude adjustment or you obviously forgot to take your meds......either way adjusted or not as it may be in the future I'm just trying to think of the logic behind finding this an upgrade to an epic when the UPGRADE part does not even really exist.

And you will not be the only one impacted by it even though you are the one who has it now.  Are there any other 4.5's to compare to currently?  Just curious if it seems to be this way across the board and should be expected from others.

And to you crabthewall, I do not come here to post drama....look at my posts I almost never do because I'm usually in game enjoying it.  If you want to derail my thread and say I'm complaining because of all the BS that has gone on here lately go head, I'm not one of those people and honestly you can say or think what you want about me.

If you think your post wasn't complaining about it, then I'd suggest you read it again. My point was simply be PATIENT. You aren't impacted by it at this time, so give it some time. Not everything is perfect right off the bat, but making a thread about it isn't the best way of getting it solved - let alone by trying to stir the pot with inflammatory statements like "are you kidding".

The weapon is an upgrade - there is no stat on it less than the prior version. It's clearly not a downgrade - and let me be clear when I got the 4.0's some of those were indeed downgraded from the 3.0 (enchanter and cleric come to mind) Perhaps it isn't as much of an upgrade as you feel it should be, however - again this is where that patience comes in, those of us fighting in this zone and fighting the bosses know roughly how the balance sits already. Perhaps if the weapon was changed much it would change the fights too dramatically - this is where experience and time kicks in.

My point is simply - there is a right and a wrong way to get issues addressed and this isn't it. This will not help the situation, and there is no reason for you to do this. Hunter has enough on his plate as you can see lately on this forum without having to spend time on a weapon of which there is exactly one in existence at this time - again patience being the better part of discretion.



I honestly hear what your saying and understand why you and others may think that but I'm a fast typer and thinker and honestly I do not like explaining everything I do I'd rather just get straight to the point.

I wanted to start an actual conversation about this (something that does not seem to be an option on these boards these days because everyone just thinks your complaining) and maybe even have hunter chime in and explain to us that this may or may not change and why....that's all.  I mean if anyone could give us the logic behind it and an answer it would be him......my whole point of this thread no matter what some people may think or thought.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2011, 04:52:01 pm »
Quote from: steelstorm on March 10, 2011, 04:46:49 pm

I honestly hear what your saying and understand why you and others may think that but I'm a fast typer and thinker and honestly I do not like explaining everything I do I'd rather just get straight to the point.

I wanted to start an actual conversation about this (something that does not seem to be an option on these boards these days because everyone just thinks your complaining) and maybe even have hunter chime in and explain to us that this may or may not change and why....that's all.  I mean if anyone could give us the logic behind it and an answer it would be him......my whole point of this thread no matter what some people may think or thought.

and I gave you the reason above - this isn't a downgraded weapon like we saw in 4.0's and given the balance of the 5.0 zone there is a good reason this weapon shouldn't be overpowering. I'm not sure how to be more specific than that.

Starting an adult conversation doesn't consist of "are you kidding" and phrases of the like however. That's a very poor way to start a dialogue or intelligent discussion as it comes off as whining or complaining. Instead you could have simply asked for why there doesn't appear to be a major upgrade in the statistics without coloring with phrases like that.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2011, 05:02:20 pm »
Quote from: Crabthewall on March 10, 2011, 04:52:01 pm
Quote from: steelstorm on March 10, 2011, 04:46:49 pm

I honestly hear what your saying and understand why you and others may think that but I'm a fast typer and thinker and honestly I do not like explaining everything I do I'd rather just get straight to the point.

I wanted to start an actual conversation about this (something that does not seem to be an option on these boards these days because everyone just thinks your complaining) and maybe even have hunter chime in and explain to us that this may or may not change and why....that's all.  I mean if anyone could give us the logic behind it and an answer it would be him......my whole point of this thread no matter what some people may think or thought.

and I gave you the reason above - this isn't a downgraded weapon like we saw in 4.0's and given the balance of the 5.0 zone there is a good reason this weapon shouldn't be overpowering. I'm not sure how to be more specific than that.

Starting an adult conversation doesn't consist of "are you kidding" and phrases of the like however. That's a very poor way to start a dialogue or intelligent discussion as it comes off as whining or complaining. Instead you could have simply asked for why there doesn't appear to be a major upgrade in the statistics without coloring with phrases like that.

sorry i did not start the thread how you felt appropriate....but i typed how i felt when i saw it and I know many others who are very close have already said the same.  the whole reason of this thread if you want to believe me or not is to find out something that i obviously dont understand and maybe have an explanation sort of like you gave above.
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