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Blighton <Leader of Red Dawn>
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« on: April 30, 2010, 12:00:28 am »
Just so im clear on the new etiquette thats has come to Ezserver. So im camping Tacvi and have been for a few hours when i engage tunat for my final kill when a few select people waiting around decide to assist me causing my adds to to ping-pong around killing my cleric..I clicked a rez on my cleric before my warrior goes down and when i return from the death i find Eisengaurd has leaped me to kill tunat in his spawn location..now if im wrong then ill eat this fuggin post laptop and all but i think that was some hoe ass shit..after i find him on tunat i proceeded to run Fraps..ask him wtf?..he says its in the rules..blah blah blah..i cant hold every boss..and posts him and his bots on my very next boss for another kill..if the shoe was on the other foot..i mean come on..i would of bowed out and let the guy finish his kills..if this is found to be of cause i will post the fraps..

i hate the bs but this one burned me
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 12:52:50 am »
I figured we resolved this in say chat, but I guess not.

When I loaded in my warrior there was no one in the zone except Ashbane who asked if I had a group coming and whether or not he could join.  Tunat was up, I figured either A) the person prior got the loot they needed or B) they wiped and might enjoy some free loot.  Simply restated, you weren't in the zone when I engaged the boss

I finished loading in 2 other accounts and engaged the boss as boss 1 was spawning, So I assumed he'd come running to enjoy the fight.  He did not and I then learned you were in the zone with a 'wtf' comment in /shout.  At this point in time Tunat is about dead and you come running in screaming of a KS and you fraps'd a fight already in progress.  You proceeded to be very rude which wasn't really necessary since had you explained your situation you would've gotten any loot you wanted, but you'd rather insult me and call me trash. Fine.

It was at this point I followed the rules posted on this forum which allows me to leapfrog should you be engaging a boss.  At no point did I steal a kill which you accused me of, and furthermore had you just been decent this could have been resolved without addressing the entire community who likely doesn't care and gets irritated with drama on these boards.  Feel free to /tell me on Eisengaurd or shoot me a PM to discuss this further.

Thanks,

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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 12:55:13 am »
also forgot to mention I moved my toons to boss 5, while you were killing boss 2, which allowed you to hold 2 camps according to the rules.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 12:56:21 am »
Sounds like these 2 rules were broken to me but thats the server owners call i would post the fraps:

NO KILL STEALING
Place nice here, and don't kill steal. You can hold a camp if you are not afk. When a mob spawns, you need to engage it, or else you will be considered afk and forfeit the camp. You can not have 1 toon hold the camp while waiting for your group to arrive. If your not ready to engage when the mob spawns, then your not camping it, and forfeit the rights to the camp if another party wants it. If a guild is actively buffing up when a boss spawns, then please give them about 5 minutes to engage, or else they lose the rights to the boss. If a guild spawns a boss thru a turn in quest, then only that guild has rights to the boss. You can't hold 2 or more camps at the same time, so if a group/guild is fighting a boss, then another group/guild is welcome to 'leap frog' and claim the next boss.

NO TRAINS
Do not make a train bigger than 10 mobs in a custom zone. This does not include pofire, which is considered non-custom. You can make any size train in non-custom zones. Do not purposely train anyone in any zone in order to kill them or any other reason.

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=8.0
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 01:00:11 am »
Quote from: zolton32 on April 30, 2010, 12:56:21 am
Sounds like these 2 rules were broken to me but thats the server owners call i would post the fraps:

NO KILL STEALING
Place nice here, and don't kill steal. You can hold a camp if you are not afk. When a mob spawns, you need to engage it, or else you will be considered afk and forfeit the camp. You can not have 1 toon hold the camp while waiting for your group to arrive. If your not ready to engage when the mob spawns, then your not camping it, and forfeit the rights to the camp if another party wants it. If a guild is actively buffing up when a boss spawns, then please give them about 5 minutes to engage, or else they lose the rights to the boss. If a guild spawns a boss thru a turn in quest, then only that guild has rights to the boss. You can't hold 2 or more camps at the same time, so if a group/guild is fighting a boss, then another group/guild is welcome to 'leap frog' and claim the next boss.

NO TRAINS
Do not make a train bigger than 10 mobs in a custom zone. This does not include pofire, which is considered non-custom. You can make any size train in non-custom zones. Do not purposely train anyone in any zone in order to kill them or any other reason.

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=8.0

First, see my bolded text in your quote

Second, I'm extremely confused how No Trains applies, please fill me in on your logic
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 01:05:26 am »
Quote from: Eisengaurd on April 30, 2010, 01:00:11 am
Quote from: zolton32 on April 30, 2010, 12:56:21 am
Sounds like these 2 rules were broken to me but thats the server owners call i would post the fraps:

NO KILL STEALING
Place nice here, and don't kill steal. You can hold a camp if you are not afk. When a mob spawns, you need to engage it, or else you will be considered afk and forfeit the camp. You can not have 1 toon hold the camp while waiting for your group to arrive. If your not ready to engage when the mob spawns, then your not camping it, and forfeit the rights to the camp if another party wants it. If a guild is actively buffing up when a boss spawns, then please give them about 5 minutes to engage, or else they lose the rights to the boss. If a guild spawns a boss thru a turn in quest, then only that guild has rights to the boss. You can't hold 2 or more camps at the same time, so if a group/guild is fighting a boss, then another group/guild is welcome to 'leap frog' and claim the next boss.

NO TRAINS
Do not make a train bigger than 10 mobs in a custom zone. This does not include pofire, which is considered non-custom. You can make any size train in non-custom zones. Do not purposely train anyone in any zone in order to kill them or any other reason.

http://ezserver.online/forums/index.php?topic=8.0

First, see my bolded text in your quote

Second, I'm extremely confused how No Trains applies, please fill me in on your logic

First off i was posting that as you were replying. Second if you agroed the mobs to his cleric killing it as was stated that is training the mobs to kill another player. He said you attacked the mob after it was already engaged. Which is why i said kill stealing.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 01:13:24 am »
If his cleric ran in and died during the fight it was due to adds spawning, which is not a train.  If you're familiar with tacvi, there are 8 mobs that spawn, period.  3 have pets/familiars, and 2 spawn adds once engaged.  The second boss and the final boss (tunat) spawn adds throughout the fight.

I didn't run anywhere nor did I pick up mobs to create a train, they just spawn, much like Qvic mobs only at a faster rate.  It is possible he got agro simply by being in range without my warrior having a chance to pick up the add.  However, I never once saw his cleric or a body of which he speaks, only someone shouting I KS'd them from the zone in.

Look forward to seeing the fraps.  The zone and Tunat's room were empty upon engaging.  It's a little upsetting I need to be prepared to fraps every single fight (even in an empty zone) in order to prevent accusations.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 01:16:29 am »
Wow.. i mean its not like you can lvl 71  on this server. I would be glad for free loot and said thank you. XD After you said I could have it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 01:18:53 am »
Quote from: Eisengaurd on April 30, 2010, 01:13:24 am
If his cleric ran in and died during the fight it was due to adds spawning, which is not a train.  If you're familiar with tacvi, there are 8 mobs that spawn, period.  3 have pets/familiars, and 2 spawn adds once engaged.  The second boss and the final boss (tunat) spawn adds throughout the fight.

I didn't run anywhere nor did I pick up mobs to create a train, they just spawn, much like Qvic mobs only at a faster rate.  It is possible he got agro simply by being in range without my warrior having a chance to pick up the add.  However, I never once saw his cleric or a body of which he speaks, only someone shouting I KS'd them from the zone in.

Look forward to seeing the fraps.  The zone and Tunat's room were empty upon engaging.  It's a little upsetting I need to be prepared to fraps every single fight (even in an empty zone) in order to prevent accusations.

Read what he wrote above he said you were playing tag with the agro which is what got him killed. And how do you know you were the only one in the zone? You do a /who when you entered?
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 01:23:14 am »
Yes I did do a /who when I zoned in since I logged out in Tunat's Room and he was up.  I also use Macroquest for the map/stick features and can see what bosses are up and who is in the zone and where.  So I knew without a doubt I was the only one in the zone, along with Ashbane asking to join.  I also knew for certain that Tunat was the only mob up, prior to engaging and setting up, I noticed the first boss had spawned and was planning to pick up agro quickly on him when he came running to the room.

Playing tag with Agro? If I engaged a mob from 100% to dead and he's agroing adds that spawn, I'm not sure how it's my fault he died by getting in range with a squishy class.  That's like telling me it's my fault you died in PoD from dragon AoE poison because I was killing too close to you.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 01:23:29 am »
Dont even bother with this tool..Im still in game killin bosses in Tacvi so he can spend all night tryin to explain he isnt a asshole when he knows what he did was a hoe ass move..Let me know how reading the rules over and over tonight works out to your favor tomorrow...im over it..i know you now...back to killin..
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 01:27:53 am »
Quote from: Eisengaurd on April 30, 2010, 01:23:14 am
Yes I did do a /who when I zoned in since I logged out in Tunat's Room and he was up.  I also use Macroquest for the map/stick features and can see what bosses are up and who is in the zone and where.  So I knew without a doubt I was the only one in the zone, along with Ashbane asking to join.  I also knew for certain that Tunat was the only mob up, prior to engaging and setting up, I noticed the first boss had spawned and was planning to pick up agro quickly on him when he came running to the room.

Playing tag with Agro? If I engaged a mob from 100% to dead and he's agroing adds that spawn, I'm not sure how it's my fault he died by getting in range with a squishy class.  That's like telling me it's my fault you died in PoD from dragon AoE poison because I was killing too close to you.


What he says though is that he engaged then you jumped in. Yet you are saying its the other way around? Thats he said she said without proof.
/shrug

BTW i would not zone the server is not showing up  Huh So you could be like me and not be able to log back in >_<
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2010, 01:31:55 am »
I agree it's he said/she said.  However I'd like to see his video of him dying while engaged, rezzing his warrior, and re-engaging, as well as his scattered corpses, all while I jumped in to steal his kill.  Hence why I said post the fraps.

I assume the fraps will show him running in to tunat's room, seeing tunat engaged, screaming he was KS'd, and me shouting What KS? shrug

And yes about world server, I logged off awhile ago to do some crap and then saw this post which I thought had been resolved.
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2010, 01:34:36 am »
Quote from: Kroe on April 30, 2010, 01:23:29 am
Dont even bother with this tool..Im still in game killin bosses in Tacvi so he can spend all night tryin to explain he isnt a asshole when he knows what he did was a hoe ass move..Let me know how reading the rules over and over tonight works out to your favor tomorrow...im over it..i know you now...back to killin..

Like I said before I apologized to you and offered you the loot on Tunat, nothing was removed from the corpse.

Glad you're over it.

Enjoy Tacvi Killing.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2010, 01:37:45 am »
Can i just say, why the hell wasnt this posted rants? doesnt seem like a general discussion?  Huh But, if somebody logs into a zone and the zone is empty and a mob is up and they kill a mob, how do they know what may just have happened?
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