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« on: July 20, 2012, 12:33:28 pm »
Is there a way to completely make this cause no threat when clicking it?  I swear I'm rezzing my wizard very often due to agro from mana stone clicks lol..

Its very noticeable in longer fights.. short fights you don't notice agro transfer ever.

Just a thought to throw out there..

Another possible suggestion would be an upgraded Mana Stone that requires less clicking to get mana back maybe?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 02:41:43 pm »
I can't say that I'm seeing this. I run three wizards and never have threat issues.

I couldn't see why/how it would cause threat. I don't believe the mana gain component is threat generating. Even so, I do not believe that a player healing themselves causes threat (as a cleric would be the best tank ever).

The threat generation was recently tuned down to help with threat roll overs. You may want to try getting a bit more touchy/feely with threat generation. The warriors augs saw a hefty drop, Dread Gaze was over halfway cut, Anger III (Sceptre) was left alone.


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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 03:01:25 pm »
Might be the fact that fights in T6 are a bit longer than anything you have done in T5. I spend a lot of time clicking that damn mana stone.

Currently running these mana buffs...

5.0 Mana regen click buff - 3k mana per minute
Kodiacs Intell III - T6 spell -  10k mana per minute
Beastlord mana regen - T6 spell - 5k mana per minute
Bard - clicking 5.0 every minute -50k mana / minute
NOT USING bard regen -- as it is still bugged

68k mana per minute (not counting gear.. as mana regen from gear is TERRIBLE!!)


Casting T3 nuke 21,000 mana

Without going oom thats 3 casts per minute

If all perfect cast at 1,000,000 each thats 3mil per minute -- or 50,000 DPS

However, burning mana as fast as possible and using mana stone its about 120k DPS ~~

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I've done a LOT of T6 runs.. only time I waste in T6 is rezzing Wizard.. its pretty crazy how much agro a Wizard gets.. (Note: I am using the agro reduction spell as well!)

I stopped clicking mana stone... Wizard lives an entire run but does terrible dps.

Next run started clicking again.. did better dps however.. pulls agro on adds ad sometimes the boss.. instantly logged her off after she died for the 4th time in a row lol.

Also note I am using warrior to focus burn adds and when wizard went OOM ... clickie pulled agro on Boss that we were no longer attacking.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 03:13:50 pm »
Lets say you can click the Mana stone 60 times per minute.

Thats 28,080 mana....

So a 1 minute cooldown item with 25k-30k mana? Would be the same thing .. except less SPAM clicking.

Gonna test it right now actually with a counter to see how many times i can click it in a minute... lol

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I was WAAY off.... I was able to click it 120 times in a single minute. So a total gain of 56,160 mana per minute from insanely spammy clicking..

Now to test how many clicks it takes to pull agro ! =p



( I couldn't duplicate the agro pull.. in other zones other than T6)
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 03:42:21 pm »
The Harvest spells could be cut down to 2 minutes from 5 minutes. It would keep mana regen at a reasonable level, but would still only provide supplemental mana regeneration (which is what I had intended).


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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 05:36:56 pm »
yeah I keep clicking my manastone on my warrior and my mana level stays @ 0.... WTF!!?!?


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