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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 05:29:40 am »

Wizards got the 0.9 second cast spells, and all 4 int caster classes can use the new manastone.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 08:19:18 am »

Wizards got the 0.9 second cast spells, and all 4 int caster classes can use the new manastone.


I think its time for 2 new spells =p


Yamakagi's Fiery Passion Inferno II   (T5)


Yamakagi's Fiery Passion Inferno III  (T6)

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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2012, 03:22:03 pm »

what at moment best single target nuke on WIzzys and best AoE ?

how many is the base dmg?
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2012, 11:19:42 am »

what at moment best single target nuke on WIzzys and best AoE ?

how many is the base dmg?

Yamakagi's Fiery Passion Inferno (T3) is best single target.

Static Burst II (T5) or Kaldar's Heavenly Fire (T4). SBII is instacast, huge damage. KHF is AoE rain that actually lands with changes ~12mo ago.

I would say that wizards don't need everything changed, they just need a high (but not extreme) damage spam nuke. Maybe something that does ~50-75k base, relatively low mana cast, 0.5 cast, 0.5 refresh, 0.0 cooldown. For longer fights, maybe a new Yamakagi's is in order. Yamakagi could be the EXTREME damage ability for bosses or showing off. The new "trash mob nuke" would be used for everything else.

I would advise AGAINST instant cast on everything as it caused things to freak out with a lovely 10 second spell gem lock out. That got irritating EXTREMELY fast (when it happened).

So...yeah, tl;dr - New Yamakagi with extreme damage, new lower damage/mana-cost/cast-time spam nuke.


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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2012, 11:45:00 pm »

Need either a pet only stone wall buff or maybe as worn effect on armor if that works.

Either pet self buffs or a pet only buff that the owner cast.

Can make custom spell list for npcs that pet uses, but probably won't work for questing the stonewall.

Maybe hail the pet to buff itself just like hailing it for Fireblade v2.

Or have the pet owner cast the pet only buff which is more useful in combat.

So there are a few ways we can do this
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2012, 11:48:24 pm »

Need either a pet only stone wall buff or maybe as worn effect on armor if that works.

Either pet self buffs or a pet only buff that the owner cast.

Can make custom spell list for npcs that pet uses, but probably won't work for questing the stonewall.

Maybe hail the pet to buff itself just like hailing it for Fireblade v2.

Or have the pet owner cast the pet only buff which is more useful in combat.

So there are a few ways we can do this


Could always update fireblade v2 to have a stonewall self proc rather than that silly cyclone blade proc...

would be a pretty easy change =D
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2012, 12:07:21 am »

Yes, could make it a minor stonewall then quest for a better stonewall.

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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2012, 10:29:59 am »

So...yeah, tl;dr - New Yamakagi with extreme damage, new lower damage/mana-cost/cast-time spam nuke.


Tested a .. 0.5 cast time nuke with 0.0 recast 0.0 refresh.. and DPS was a BIT too high.. so ya your idea of a 0.5 refresh is probably best.


Was with UCv2 -- 300,000 mana (mana necklace) ----   0.5 cast and no refresh or no recast time... 4x slot of 25,000 with HUGE mana cost ( 28,000 mana cost)

Did around 600,000 -650,000 dps .. ( a bit too high lol ) -- but had to use mana clickie OFTEN  ( edited)





Going to test out what you mentioned Hateborne  Tongue




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0.5 Cast time ... 3x  25,000 -- 0.5 refresh  ---  17,000 mana cost --- UCv2 --- Mana necklace

400,000 - 430,000 DPS  - edited
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2012, 10:45:31 am »

While burst damage is fine to have.  It is key that the sustained damage (overall dps) remain in line with the other dps classes.

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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2012, 10:47:43 am »

While burst damage is fine to have.  It is key that the sustained damage (overall dps) remain in line with the other dps classes.




with the mana necklace it was all sustained dps.. lol
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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2012, 02:40:04 pm »

How long was the battle? Sustained dps to me is 5 minutes minimum.
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2012, 02:48:45 pm »

How long was the battle? Sustained dps to me is 5 minutes minimum.

I always do 5 minutes when parsing.
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2012, 03:12:43 pm »

Cool, good to know.
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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2012, 04:56:09 pm »

Wizards are the devil. That will be all. Oh, and 100th post  Kiss
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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2012, 07:30:01 pm »

While burst damage is fine to have.  It is key that the sustained damage (overall dps) remain in line with the other dps classes.



Yes, that is why there should be a higher cost, quick cast, low orbit death ray for trash (a.k.a not sustainable on bosses) and a normal, lower cost, 100 Megaton Bomb for bosses. The shorter cast does the higher damage at the higher mana cost.

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