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« on: December 29, 2012, 01:46:02 am »

So what's up with the drop rate of charms in HoH in the last 24 hours?

I did 4 clears (public & instanced) today and received a whopping 3 upgrades

8 hours logged today (not hardcore but grinding none the less)

4 shadow kills = 1 v2 upgrade

Did we get a ninja nerf or just RNG giving it to me dry?

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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 03:42:30 am »

Probably RNG, cause I haven't touched it except during double loot but reverted back to the original table after it was over.

I'll check it out later to see whats up.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 04:45:28 am »

i cleared yesterday and today like 5x HoH and get like 20charms rotting and killed 3x Shadow and there was samething wrong every kill 3gems 1book and only 1x 2x v2 charms... Shadow is low all others are fine!!!
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 05:10:03 am »

I'd have to agree, normal mobs do seem to drop roughly same rate as before loot table changes, maybe slightley less, but nothing major
However shadow definatly is a lot more reluctant to drop charms, thought it may just be me, still could be, but a lot of people had mentioned it in ooc.

Thanks for looking at it Hunter, maybe nothing wrong, just we are all having bad luck
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 08:08:28 am »

From what I have seen, shadow is more stingy than he ever was. He often will only drop 0-1 charm now. Perhaps make the minimum 1 charm would help.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 08:33:13 am »

A lot of Shadow kills yesterday (gearing up some charms on my team), and had 5 shadows with no charms at all (about half of them).
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 09:12:48 am »

Forget about the drop rate, what about his shadow stepping?  He seems to jump 3 or 4 times EVERY time out now, where it used to be possible to get him on the first or second try.  I find myself chasing him around a lot more since the change in shadow step
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 10:11:22 am »

Thanks for the info guys & thanks to Hunter for quick response.

RNG for shadowstep was good on my end. 2 kills were 1 step.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 11:44:38 am »

Yeah the other day he jumped four times on me to drop no charms and two tokens. No thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012, 12:11:16 pm »

Just curious, how many times is Shadow teleporting on you before you kill him?

There is some magic behind the shadow step. Basically if/when he decides to do it, he depops himself and spawns a new copy some where else. This is how he gets full hp and loses all aggro. When he does this, he randomly determines if the next version of Shadow is the final one or is going to step again (up to 4x max now). Only the final version of Shadow has loot on him, not the versions that are going to shadow step on you. This is to prevent someone with super spells nuking him hard to get loot on current shadow + 2nd shadow that stepped. Hope makes sense. Maybe I gotta set the NEXTHPEVENT higher?
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 12:47:23 pm »

So, you have to let him step 4 times before getting anything?  That defeats the purpose of getting better gear to be able to kill him faster. 
I understand that 4x max steps is need for newer people just getting into HoH, I remember when I first started, he would jump all day long or until I got lucky.
Now that I am T6 gears and I am going back gearing my other toons with UC'ed.  It's crazy to think I have to limit my groups dps to be able to let him jump 4 times and/or suffer the likelihood of not getting anything.
I guess I just don't understand. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2012, 12:58:30 pm »

Have had him step 5 and 6 times within the last week.....but typically 3 or 4.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2012, 03:06:21 pm »

He might step 1, 2, 3, or 4 times. Obviously the faster you kill him the faster you'll get the loot.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2012, 03:50:12 pm »

Hunter, right now shadow is steping 4 times almost every single pop. Might be an issue with the perl file for him.
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 04:51:02 pm »

I went through 5-6 instances today and the page drops (gearing up some toons for my son) seem to be on the suck side...and V2 charm drops seemed very slack too.  I expected Shadow to be stingy since he was nerfed a few months back, but out of 5-6 clears I only got 2 sorcerers, 1 brawler and 3 oracle charm upgrades (and that was killing shadow 3 times for 3 books)off the entire zone.
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