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Khaoticz
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« on: February 24, 2013, 12:08:03 pm »

Now firstly I'd like to say that everyone says its all about the RNG which is mostly true 90% of the time. But with that being said I've chain spawned 30-70 bosses in a row in T1 for Dragons Minors and haven't gotten a thing in whats now a good 150ish crystals. Yet Dragons majors drop like candy for me. Although people have the opposite turn around in their cases, the majority of the server says they suck to get, and its turning into another punishment zone like Abyss. To farm the crystals takes longer then it does to chain kill the bosses, and maybe getting a crystal from what I've noticed either out of an ornate chest or mini is about 1:15 if your lucky, maybe 1:25 if not, Then factor in the chances to get the essence from the bosses, which some people say its 1:20 bosses and others say its 1:50 I don't really see it. So Factor it in and it comes to 1 essence per 300 or 500 dragons if it's 1:20 bosses, if it's 1:50 then it would be 1 essence per 750 or 1250 dragons.
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2013, 12:52:03 pm »

Boo hoo, at least crystals stack now.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2013, 12:58:44 pm »

at least crystals stack now.
+1. So glad we don't have to run to the tiki constantly.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2013, 01:01:25 pm »

Boo hoo, at least crystals stack now.

You are correct they do great job!

However when I blow through 300 of them and get 13 essence.... I'll let you do the math...

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2013, 01:08:52 pm »

Boo hoo, at least crystals stack now.
You are correct they do great job!
300 of them and get 13 essence.... I'll let you do the math...

1 essence every ~23 kills , which proves my theory
1 essence every ~300-500 dragons

Which means for Dragon Minors alone for UW its 30,000-50,000 dragons killed!!!! Lucky us!
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2013, 01:44:37 pm »

UW was designed to be something that very few attain.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2013, 01:59:41 pm »

UW was designed to be something that very few attain.

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Burger King sells them.....

Now we are both saying stuff that everyone already knows!

This post was made pretty much to ask to have the Drop rates looked at not to say the crystals stack or that a UW should be hard to get.

If its just RNG hating the server then right on I can power through that as I have with everything.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2013, 02:25:55 pm »

This post was made pretty much to ask to have the Drop rates looked at not to say the crystals stack or that a UW should be hard to get.

Oh, so that's what this post is about. Hunter has repeatedly stated that all essences drop at around the rate of 5%. The data you yourself provided (4.33%) supports this.
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2013, 02:30:10 pm »

putting adds on the t1 bosses like t2 bosses have would go a long way in solving this problem i think, of course some tuning might have to happen for the newbies
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2013, 02:46:54 pm »

Easiest solution is for Hunter to do what he did in the abyss and quest::addloot dragon minors to ornate chests and mini's. Maybe even t1 trash.

This would just keep crappy RNG from enjoying an extended vacation.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2013, 02:50:09 pm »

They should just drop UW9s so then people might stop crying  Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2013, 03:19:22 pm »

Easiest solution is for Hunter to do what he did in the abyss and quest::addloot dragon minors to ornate chests and mini's. Maybe even t1 trash.

This would just keep crappy RNG from enjoying an extended vacation.

This would work for both T1 and T2, or he could increase the rate of crystals dropping since the 5% wouldn't change from the boss dropping them.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2013, 04:03:12 pm »

He recently bumped the drop rates of T1/T2. QQing cause you blow thru 25-50 Crystals and not get anything qq some more. Sometimes I blow through a 100 and not 1 then I get 3-6 drops back to back RNG is RNG and it blows. A lot of players don't understand the amount of hours the few that have 100+ of these have been in game.. This did not happen over night.. nor did it happen solo. Mine was a guild effort. and I'm going out on a limb and saying most of the others have been a guild effort.

Don't expect the end game stuff upon return from a major hiatus
Don't expect the end game stuff without the grind.

Hunter has made many SUPER CHARGED changes 0-T4 is a joke including UC for anyone to do.

The only thing that really blows is essences really don't sell anymore but shrug.

Just for your info I've burned through 1000s++ of crystals & Tokens as have my peers. @ least they are stackable as it was mentioned


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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2013, 05:16:34 pm »

Which means for Dragon Minors alone for UW its 30,000-50,000 dragons killed!!!! Lucky us!


Do expect to just finish this over a weekend?

.. want one.... less forum posting more grinding.
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 05:33:09 pm »

It's kinda hard to decide which way to lean.

On one side I believe UW should be a difficult item to obtain

On the other side dragon minors are definitely not in line with any other essences. Not referring to drop rate wise, but to the availability of the boss's.  T2 boss's can be killed at a steady rate because they spawn adds and you have a chance of getting another crystal. Every HoH mob has a chance at dropping a token so T3/T4 can also have a great flow of boss kills.

Just my observation, not arguing either side

@ least they are stackable as it was mentioned

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