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[Darpey]

I agree with literally everything balidet said - good stuff... and redeemed me a little on my druid fail.

Paladin passive heal of effectively a CH about once a second is killer.

Druid is great for establishing the heals from Pally while Warrior is getting the mobs to camp, but Paladin is your bread and butter healer... will keep the group alive during fights.

The druid regen is huge... but relative to T9 level RoA and UW (e.g. Darpey's regen is 176,120) it's small in comparison.

[Darpey]

Orange: 16.5k base HP + a percentage of your max hp. Like your kindergarten teacher used to say "Read all the way through before starting".

Looked it up, and here's a screenshot.


I know it also does a DS... but this doesn't show up either.

Additionally, The only group heal in the community wiki's druid page or a search through my own druid's purple heal gems is "Breath of Nature" which "Heals 8320 to 13,423 random hp"... (virtually nothing, even after UC2, compared to a T9 warrior (i.e. Darpey @ 3.1m HP ~ 176,120 regen Unbuffed)) and has a 6 second cast time


^ Level 1 of "Breath of Nature"

[hateborne]

Orange: 16.5k base HP + a percentage of your max hp. Like your kindergarten teacher used to say "Read all the way through before starting".

Looked it up, and here's a screenshot.


I know it also does a DS... but this doesn't show up either.

It doesn't show a DS because there ISN'T a DS. Slot 12 = Max HP Change by 10% (positive change). This gives the a 10% global HP bonus. If you have 100khp, 125khp with buffs, this buff would add 29k (16.5k from static buff, 10% of 125k is 12.5k).

Additionally, The only group heal in the community wiki's druid page or a search through my own druid's purple heal gems is "Breath of Nature" which "Heals 8320 to 13,423 random hp"... (virtually nothing, even after UC2) and has a 6 second cast time


^ Level 1 of "Breath of Nature"

Level 1 is the L69 version (pic), the 8320-13423 is the version 2. :-P
Even so, UCv2 has +900% healing which means multiply the amounts by 10. 83,200 - 134,230 excluding ALL AAXP bonuses. The 6 seconds is the RECAST time. The cast time is instant.

If you are counting on an AoE heal as your MT heal, "yer doing it wrong". You should be using Chlorobon or Chlorobon II. The first version is 12.5k and 60k for the second. Add in UCv2 alone and that's 125k and 600k that is an instant cast with a 5 second cooldown. Considering you can drop AoE for ~135k (before aaxp/buffs), ST for ~600k, then the regen tick ~45-65k... that's 780-800k (before aaxp/buffs) in that 6 second window that you are counting as "down".


-Hate

[Warbash]

Hate,
BoA does have a DS though, been pulling in qvic for essence and had to close click it off or mobs die as I run around. I use GLS and shield to not do damage.

[Darpey]

The 6 seconds is the RECAST time. The cast time is instant.

Thank you for clearing that up. I haven't actually used it so I interpreted it wrong.

If you are counting on an AoE heal as your MT heal, "yer doing it wrong". You should be using Chlorobon or Chlorobon II. The first version is 12.5k and 60k for the second. Add in UCv2 alone and that's 125k and 600k that is an instant cast with a 5 second cooldown. Considering you can drop AoE for ~135k (before aaxp/buffs), ST for ~600k, then the regen tick ~45-65k... that's 780-800k (before aaxp/buffs) in that 6 second window that you are counting as "down".

Good point - 600k or 800k (with both spells) is definitely worth casting - need to modify my main hotbutton to include these spells

Tho - to get a druid in your crew you'd have to sacrifice a DPS spot, so it's a tradeoff... and Pally heal is more, faster, and group.

Thanks for the clarification.

[hateborne]

Hate,
BoA does have a DS though, been pulling in qvic for essence and had to close click it off or mobs die as I run around. I use GLS and shield to not do damage.

Warbash,

No, it does not. I checked all three ranks and there is not a DS on it. Some of the gear DOES have the Damage Shield stat, but there is NOT a damage shield on Blessing of Ancient Oak I/II/III.

id	name	effectid1	effectid2	effectid3	effectid4	effectid5	effectid6	effectid7	effectid8	effectid9	effectid10	effectid11	effectid12
10505	Blessing of Ancient Oak	254	254	79	254	254	69	254	254	254	254	254	214
10506	Blessing of Ancient Oak II	254	254	79	254	254	69	254	254	254	254	254	214
10507	Blessing of Ancient Oak III	254	254	79	254	254	69	254	254	254	254	254	214

Effectid3 is 79, which is CurrentHPOnce (non-scaling heal).
Effectid6 is 69, which is TotalHP (hp buff).
Effectid12 is 214, which is MaxHPChange (Percentage buff).
Effectid values of 254 is blank, or no effect.

There is no DS on this spell. Effect ID 59 is damage shield and is not found on these spells.


-Hate

[Darpey]

So weird - I could have sworn it used to... But I just went into Qvic, and sure enough... no Damage Shield

[Darpey]

Just shot Oak III on darpey (unbuffed otherwise)

3,632,456 HP unbuffed
3,648,956 Oak III

Difference of exactly 16,500

As per "/say stats"


Looking at UI health instead of "stats" shows the following:
3,202,340 HP unbuffed
3,100,681 Oak III

Oak III decreased HP by 101659 or 3.3% lol

Edit: double checked the numbers on the UI, and yes... they did appear to decrease

[balidet]

/grabs popcorn

[Warbash]

So weird indeed just Monday I had this happen. I'll test again

[Warbash]

Just shot Oak III on darpey (unbuffed otherwise)

3,632,456 HP unbuffed
3,648,956 Oak III

Difference of exactly 16,500

As per "/say stats"


Looking at UI health instead of "stats" shows the following:
3,100,681 HP unbuffed
3,202,340 Oak III

Oak III decreased HP by 101659 or 3.3% lol

Edit: double checked the numbers on the UI, and yes... they did appear to decrease

Per your numbers looks like it increases with oak on ui?

[Darpey]

I labeled them backwards - fixed the original post

Blessing of Ancient Oak effects (Druid and Warrior)

(T9 Druid)
User Interface HP
1748873 HP Unbuffed
1494702 Oak III

Net Change: 254171 less hp - or 14.5%
"/say stats"
1942055 Oak III
1749005 HP Unbuffed

Net Change: 193050 more hp - or 9.9%

(T9 Warrior)
"/say stats"
3,632,456 HP unbuffed
3,648,956 Oak III

Net Change: 16,500 more hp - or 0.05%
User Interface HP

3,202,340 HP unbuffed
3,100,681 Oak III

Net Change: 101659 less hp - or 3.3%

Have faith in me, Hate! I can do math... I think...

[hateborne]

Darpey,

Again, your math needs work. :-P

Me:
Normal: 638751
Oak III: 720776
Difference: 82025 (minus 16.5k, 65525)
720776 - 16500 = 704276 / 638751 = 1.102583 or roughly 10% increase.

Me with UW Staff 10: 1125846
Oak III: 1256580
Difference: 130734 (minus 16.5k, 114234)
1256580 - 16500 = 1240080 / 1125846 = 1.101465 or roughly 10% increase.

Harthek
Normal: 4089427
Oak III: 4516250
Difference: 426823 (minus 16.5k, 410323)
4516250 - 16500 = 4499750 / 4089427 = 1.100337 or roughly 10% increase.


Anything else I can clarify? :-P

-Hate

[Darpey]

So it appears "/say stats" is quirky in certain zones



This has nothing to do with math, which was flawless 2nd grade subtraction. No need to be a dick.


Darpey was in Qvic when both numbers were taken, and Daruid was in Nexus

both buffless - I'll test again in a different zone

new numbers en route... (Plane of Dragons)


(T9 Warrior) in Plane of Dragons
"/say stats"
4,013,851 Oak III
3,632,456 HP Unbuffed

Net Change: 381,393 more hp - or 10.5%
(Perfect 10% after subtracting out the 16.5k raw hp buff)
The bad numbers were (I guess) due to the zone that they were in (Qvic / Nexus)

[hateborne]

So it appears "/say stats" is quirky in certain zones



This has nothing to do with math, which was flawless 2nd grade subtraction. No need to be a dick.

LoL, if I were being a dick...you'll know. Just %@%@ing with ya. :-)


-Hate

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