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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2015, 01:32:36 am »
yes!

single target DPs is like...useless.. bunch 5 or 6 practice dummies and let us try out our UBERERR aoe skills on them..
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2015, 02:00:51 pm »
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GameParse v1.5.1.5 http://gambosoft.eqresource.com/
Level 77, T9 armors, RoA1000, UC3, SoA LV(55), Epic9.0
Buffs : Ancient Melee Haste/Vampiric Thunder1(ENC), Huntmaster2(RNG), Shaman Epic9.0, Crab2(CLR)
Others : Cry Havoc(BER Combat Abilities), Click AoE(BER Epic), Over Raided Haste(BER self)
Fists of Wu(MNK Combat Abilities), FlyingKick(MNK), Crab Fu(MNK self)
Backstab(ROG), Secret's Secret2(RNG self)

WAR UW11(2hs), T9 Bow
PAL UW11(2hs), Jeweler's candlelight(T7 special range slot)
BER UW11(2hs), Jeweler's candlelight(T7 special range slot)
ROG UW11(Dagger+Twhip), T9 Bow
MNK UW11(Knuckle+T9 HtoH), Jeweler's candlelight(T7 special range slot)
RNG UW11(1hs+Twhip), T9 Bow

Bersrker : Mistress & Angryface
Rogue : Epic x1 & Epic x2 (Tserrina's Whip+Epic)
MT WAR, others attack from behind Dummy.

500sec Practice Dummy in Fighters Guild

T8/T9 Earring x6 characters
WAR(IG) 8750k8470k9040k
PAL(Mistress)4960k4820k5060k
BER(Mistress)7860k8290k8550k
(Angryface)8170k8060k7550k
ROG(Mistress)9800k9800k9570k
  (Epic x2)12780k13040k13640k
MNK(Mistress)5640k6020k5720k
RNG(Mistress)5980k6260k6190k

with Earring of the Brutal Ages 50 x6 characters
WAR(IG)16160k17350k17780k
PAL(Mistress)7940k7960k8290k
BER(Mistress)15320k14170k14730k
(Angryface)15200k14720k14240k
ROG(Mistress)12510k12200k12030k
  (Epic x2)15780k16330k16410k
MNK(Mistress)8030k7410k8260k
RNG(Mistress)8080k8350k8320k

Zerker, strong again.
How VT2? How Monk 1hb? How level 78? ......I'm tired.
(I did test at last year, was Hand to Hand > 1hb. now... don't know)

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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2015, 03:21:30 pm »
What is (Mistress) ? Is it some halloween thing?
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2015, 03:34:12 pm »
http://ezserverwiki.com/Halloween_Familiars

^ All the Halloween Familiars

Mistress of Flame: (T9)
  • 250 point increased Fire Resist Cap
  • ~15% Melee Proc of Kaldars Heavenly Fire
  • 6666 Damage Shield
  • 100k HP
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2015, 03:56:14 pm »
Jeez, I need to stop burning out before halloween every year! AFK for a month...
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2015, 05:28:56 pm »
I had no idea that earring would add so much...holy crap...time to head to HOH!
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« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2015, 10:36:24 pm »
adding 2cp to this

77 Mage with 40 earing epic 9 pet self buffs and Harnest soul gem from ToFS mana neck 11 UC3 UW11 2hander in pet bag
Pet only 500s                     5497359dps

Pet and mage chaining TV2 7032567dps
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« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2015, 11:03:49 pm »
Try 1h and twhip on pet and see if pet dps changes
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« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2015, 11:28:09 pm »
ok as Chunka requested reset with IhS and T whip.
same as before just self buffs

pet only       3260523 dps

mage + pet 7145690dps
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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2015, 12:05:59 am »
is the increase in overall damage just from more mana neck procs?
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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2015, 01:13:10 am »
No....its also from the twhip debuff/buff
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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2015, 01:44:32 am »
Quote from: Chunka on September 02, 2015, 01:13:10 am
No....its also from the twhip debuff/buff

Uh.... The pet's dps went down by almost half in the "pet only" portion. the 1h + whip combo didn't even increase the overall damage by much, but I was very surprised to see that it did after how much dps was lost in the "pet only" parse. I mean I get it the whip debuff and buff help, but the fact that he's got a whip doesn't mean jack if you look at how much melee damage was lost.

Looks like the loss of mana strike procs from using the 2hander is the real deciding factor, that's what i meant.
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« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2015, 11:45:46 am »
Was kinda tired and out of it when I made the above post last night. But I'll break it down a little better:

2H parse
Pet only 500s                     5497359dps

Pet and mage chaining TV2 7032567dps

Dual Wield parse
pet only       3260523 dps (2,236,836 dps lost)

mage + pet 7145690dps (113,123 dps gain)

From this, by adding the mage casts into the equation, thus activating the Mana Neck procs, the massive dps loss of using the 1hand / whip gets flipped around.

So my next question, are pets capped at 35 delay like we are, or can you load them up with chanter buffs and watch them go zoom zoom?

And finally, if it were ever possible to add a Roaming Gnome to the crafters guild that would give your caster flags based on UW level to make your pet auto-equip two 1-handers of the identical level of yours (using the hail > Firebladev2-v3 system), that would be a nice dps buff to bring them in line with the melee's with earrings. This would make the summoner's bag kinda useless, but as it stands now they can't put two Ult weapons in it already, and they'd have to unaug their staff, swap it to the 1hander, put it in the bag, and go back to the staff every time the pet died.

Option 2: If you still wanted to make use of the Summoner's Bag, have the Roaming Gnome flags award the player with a spell that would summon 2 1-handers to put in the bag.

I can't believe I'm making a post supporting the use of pets  Lips sealed but I feel bad that Sona has all that work into a mage and my warrior / rogue / monk outdps it without even having a lvl 1 earring yet. Then again, that's largely because of the new AAs and Triple Attack  Cool
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« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2015, 12:21:39 pm »
Yea its sort of an insanity with casters right now... I am actually leveling up a wizzy into t9 and getting him his uc3... I have no idea why... the dps is horrible and I have a  4th uc3 t9 zerk I parked to use the wizzard...

I have been running a mage...I like the damage shield... and I really like my COH button on my main toon when I get stuck...run into the firepit in TOV or do something else I don't like... its nice to have an instance call back.. without the UW or Earring the mage dps is ...well..meh... but what can I say ...

I run a chanter as well with all the non UW stuff or earring and even with UC3/bag/neck maxed out he is very /meh I guess VT2 is nice but i never get a chance to use GOA and its impact is fairly minimal.


TL:DR

Casters.... we have them...not sure why
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« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2015, 02:53:56 pm »
Nice to see some numbers for mages, did you have your mage mele as well? Get in the extra hits with those UW's between nukes?
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