QVIC IS BULLSHIT

sohami

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2010, 10:03:44 pm »

DEFINITELY notice spikage in qvic.


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ieawenpo

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2010, 10:06:15 pm »

Quote from: walk2k on August 10, 2010, 08:41:35 pm

bump. ...

I never really did qvic before this thread here but... I've noticed that sometimes mobs seem to hit really random, like sometimes I can tank them for 4-5 seconds and they do 0 dmg to me, other times it's off the charts... This is trash at zone in. Yesterday on my ranger with about 22k hp I pulled a mob and it knocked me unconscious in the first round.... from full health! Luckily I popped back up in time to get a heal (on SoD client HPs tend to bounce around kinda weird) but that's ridiculous. Trash here should not be doing 20k+ per round. I looked at the log and it looks like I got hit six times in an instant (sextuple attack??) all for 2800-3600.

Random is random.
Everyone gets a string of bad luck and good luck.
If you have misses on, you will see that they miss quite often, but, every once in a while the old RNG kicks in and wamo, you are dead.

Happens on every mob in the game.
HoH mobs can crit for 84k, mob rolls a lucky streak and you are pretty much dead no matter what.


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walk2k

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2010, 11:54:14 am »

Are they supposed to hit 6-7 times in 1 round though? That's what happened.


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Lexington

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2010, 12:16:43 pm »

from normal combat round + riposte, a mob could easily do 6 x hits, depending on how many times you swing with ur main hand weapon and it is riposted ( i say mainhand cuz most have the aa so that offhand isn't riposted)
also take into account that they can flurry


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walk2k

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2010, 12:20:13 pm »

I guess it could have been riposte, I have the combat set to "abbreviated" I don't think it shows ripostes just "hits for.."


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walk2k

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2010, 01:12:56 pm »

Lol bumping this...

I haven't played here much since August or so but thought I'd give it another whirl...

I took my Paladin to Qvic and managed to solo thru the trash pretty easy, and even killed 2-3 of the bosses.. It was pretty close and with some bad luck I died but wasn't that bad..

THEN I get to "Agnatti the Keeper" I think. WTF is up with this guy? I must have tried 10 times (I'm stubborn..) but couldn't do it.

"No prob" I think, I'll just bring my Druid with her regen stick, and heals, and a little extra damage from CG pet... Whoops guess not, tried this 2-3 more times and still died horribly.

Honestly this is bullshit. What the hell do you need to tank here? It's not a matter of healing, most of the time I spend the fights at 100% life.. but with 1 bad round they can hit for 20k+ ?? So WTF you need 30k hps? More?? Basically my Pally has ALL the best possible gear you could have up to Qvic, without cheating. He has full LDON armor, all with augs, and his 2.5 epic. I'm using a 100AC shield also... He has Oracle charm 25 ffs!!

It's not even a matter of "bring more guys" it doesn't matter how many I bring if they can all get killed by 1 unlucky round of hits...

So basically this zone is down to either wasting a hundred hours of trying and dying and hope you get lucky... Or buying a "run" (AKA cheating).

Qvic is bullshit!


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Likkety

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2010, 01:21:58 pm »

You came back at the wrong time Walk. Dru epic is messed up and proc rates are down all across the board. Was an unintentional change that will get fixed as soon as Hunter gets the chance I'm sure.


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Balthor2

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2010, 01:27:00 pm »

/hug
Lets hope tomorrow its better


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walk2k

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2010, 01:28:17 pm »

Messed up how? I didn't notice any difference in healing, like I said I was at 100% most of the fight... it's more a problem with AC, or just with how hard they hit..

No healing in the world is going to save my 20k hp paladin if the boss can hit for 20k in 1 round..

Only thing I could do at this point is add ROA levels, he's only got Roa #4 (800hp) but I figure you need closer to 30k hp and at 200hp per level that's 50 Roa levels?? All just to get my 3.0? The hell.... that just doesn't seem right.

Is there some disc I can use maybe? Not real familiar with paladin discs... I know warriors get "stonewall" or something disc, but that seems broken too if you REQUIRE a warrior to tank.. this is Qvic here not Tier 12 or whatever you're up to now


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walk2k

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2010, 01:29:36 pm »

This was yesterday/day before btw... have not tried it today...


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lerxst2112

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2010, 02:12:49 pm »

Warriors do have a disc that helps a lot, but the real key to surviving when you're just starting out is to always kill the adds immediately. At 20k hp you're gonna have some trouble, but if you get low, use your disc that will absorb some damage for a short time. Just go slow with dps on the boss so you can control how quickly you get the adds. My first mistake there was to try and burn the boss down and the adds were overwhelming.


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walk2k

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2010, 03:13:37 pm »

Adds weren't really the problem... burning down the boss too fast wasn't either, with just 1 paladin DPS lol...

Like I said I was able to kill 2-3 of the bosses just with the paladin solo... but not Agnatti... something special about that one?


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lerxst2112

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2010, 03:19:26 pm »

I haven't noticed anything special about the different bosses. They all seemed about the same difficulty to me. I suppose some do spawn more of the tougher adds but I never really noticed a pattern.

Qvic is just a painful place. Even when I got to the point where I could clear it in half an hour I still hated it.


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Solbash

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2010, 03:27:20 pm »

Aganetti is the hardest one out of the 15 in qvic if i remember correctly from back in the day. It's not a outrageous difference, but it's noticable.


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walk2k

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Re: QVIC IS BULLSHIT

« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2010, 04:00:49 pm »

Alright, guess I will bring a couple other chars for that bastard and see if I can't slog thru it.... though if my tank goes down it will still be a wipe-er-ooni...

I don't really get the hate for qvic, other than the fact you can't realistically do it with appropriate-geared chars... everyone seems to just pay some UberDude to clear it out for them.... trying to avoid doing that :p


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