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[Brannyn]

@Orthanos, Darpey just obviously said you " need " FWP " the mass res i can get away with that is definitely just a convenience item to save time/stress of waiting around. But essentially if you dont got a FWP you're not going to be able to make any UW or Strike augs when ur repops starting ripping your paper apart

How are you not going to be able to make any UW or strike augs without a FWP? I didn't get a FWP until I was well into T8 with a UW 5 and Strike augs at level 9. If you're able to clear a zone under the time limit before respawn then most likely you'll have gotten more than enough plat to repop, unless you're in PoStorms but that is only a 30 min respawn. Go read a book, watch some porn, whatever while waiting for respawn.

Hell, I had UW 9 and was in t8 by the time I got FWP and I had NS 9 going for both bards and my rogue plus a decent mana neck for my mage. I probably could have gotten through t8 without it too, but I didn't want to spend over 100mil and then go farm t6 for a couple days to be able to finish off my t8 gear.

[CyanideTreatment]

@Orthanos, Darpey just obviously said you " need " FWP " the mass res i can get away with that is definitely just a convenience item to save time/stress of waiting around. But essentially if you dont got a FWP you're not going to be able to make any UW or Strike augs when ur repops starting ripping your paper apart

How are you not going to be able to make any UW or strike augs without a FWP? I didn't get a FWP until I was well into T8 with a UW 5 and Strike augs at level 9. If you're able to clear a zone under the time limit before respawn then most likely you'll have gotten more than enough plat to repop, unless you're in PoStorms but that is only a 30 min respawn. Go read a book, watch some porn, whatever while waiting for respawn.

Hell, I had UW 9 and was in t8 by the time I got FWP and I had NS 9 going for both bards and my rogue plus a decent mana neck for my mage. I probably could have gotten through t8 without it too, but I didn't want to spend over 100mil and then go farm t6 for a couple days to be able to finish off my t8 gear.

EXactly my point why it is needed, not everyone can play ALL day EVERY day

[Dimur]

You aren't on a timer, I don't get why it's needed if you can manage without it.  Playing all day every day is going to net you more rewards than playing 2 hours a day every other day regardless of whether you have FWP or not.  What exactly is your point?

[CyanideTreatment]

Lmao Dimur.. 2 hrs every other day means i aint getting no where if 2 days ago the plat ijust farmed got me 3 instances, those 3 instances just got me a few essences, what can i do with these essences? hmm.. make strike augs with the 200k plat i have ? but wait i need more gear let me go farm another day or 2 over 3-4 days so i can pop a few more instances noones getting anywhere here

[Mersedez]

@Orthanos, Darpey just obviously said you " need " FWP " the mass res i can get away with that is definitely just a convenience item to save time/stress of waiting around. But essentially if you dont got a FWP you're not going to be able to make any UW or Strike augs when ur repops starting ripping your paper apart

How are you not going to be able to make any UW or strike augs without a FWP? I didn't get a FWP until I was well into T8 with a UW 5 and Strike augs at level 9. If you're able to clear a zone under the time limit before respawn then most likely you'll have gotten more than enough plat to repop, unless you're in PoStorms but that is only a 30 min respawn. Go read a book, watch some porn, whatever while waiting for respawn.

Hell, I had UW 9 and was in t8 by the time I got FWP and I had NS 9 going for both bards and my rogue plus a decent mana neck for my mage. I probably could have gotten through t8 without it too, but I didn't want to spend over 100mil and then go farm t6 for a couple days to be able to finish off my t8 gear.

EXactly my point why it is needed, not everyone can play ALL day EVERY day

If you think it's needed then go buy one. If you can't afford it then go get a better job, ask mom for cash, slang dope, whatever... Crying about high prices is lame.

[Dimur]

The FWP is a convenience item, if you want the convenience of having one then donate either money or help to be able to afford one.  This isn't a sprint, the whole point of playing online games is to kill time you'd rather not spend doing other things...enjoy it for what it is, a free server with free developers working on it on their own time.  If you feel like donating toward their efforts either monetarily or intellectually then by all means do so, if all you want is a place to kill time then have at it.  The only thing I agree with is what GT said regarding the ridiculous pricing of instancing in later tiers...but until you get to T6 or so and decide for yourself whether a convenience item is worth you donating for, one way or another, it's hard to understand what you mean by NEEDING a convenience item.

[CyanideTreatment]

Im not crying i was just simply asking if we could lower prices of instance all in all retard

[Brannyn]

@Orthanos, Darpey just obviously said you " need " FWP " the mass res i can get away with that is definitely just a convenience item to save time/stress of waiting around. But essentially if you dont got a FWP you're not going to be able to make any UW or Strike augs when ur repops starting ripping your paper apart

How are you not going to be able to make any UW or strike augs without a FWP? I didn't get a FWP until I was well into T8 with a UW 5 and Strike augs at level 9. If you're able to clear a zone under the time limit before respawn then most likely you'll have gotten more than enough plat to repop, unless you're in PoStorms but that is only a 30 min respawn. Go read a book, watch some porn, whatever while waiting for respawn.

Hell, I had UW 9 and was in t8 by the time I got FWP and I had NS 9 going for both bards and my rogue plus a decent mana neck for my mage. I probably could have gotten through t8 without it too, but I didn't want to spend over 100mil and then go farm t6 for a couple days to be able to finish off my t8 gear.

EXactly my point why it is needed, not everyone can play ALL day EVERY day

This was nowhere near all day everyday...

[Mersedez]

Im not crying i was just simply asking if we could lower prices of instance all in all retard

Why do you feel the need to lower the instance price when so many before you could level and get flagged before you? Do you just suck at this game where the server is already incredibly EZ, sounds like you're the retard.

[CyanideTreatment]

Im not crying i was just simply asking if we could lower prices of instance all in all retard

Why do you feel the need to lower the instance price when so many before you could level and get flagged before you? Do you just suck at this game where the server is already incredibly EZ, sounds like you're the retard.

You talking about years ago before there was a fwp? before there was t7? before there were uws? lololol there are plenty of people on this server with fwp and there are a good hanful of people who share their account with a fwp on it so you guys talking about all these people having no problems ranking up UW and NS8+ augs have had some sort of huge assistance

[Brannyn]

You talking about years ago before there was a fwp? before there was t7? before there were uws? lololol there are plenty of people on this server with fwp and there are a good hanful of people who share their account with a fwp on it so you guys talking about all these people having no problems ranking up UW and NS8+ augs have had some sort of huge assistance
[/quote]

I farmed my UW9 as well as most of my progression without FWP and without having someone make/repop my instances (99% of the time anyway). I also did this with plat that I made just from running through the zones and selling the essences. Until I was already in t7 I didn't even have the benefit of selling any GSoA I was lucky enough to get and I never sold rainbow crystals. There is no need to change instance costs whatsoever nor change the price on FWP.
New players now have more access to plat than I did while working my way up.

[Raygan]

I keep seeing this talk as if there is no such thing as public zones...like you HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE but to use an instance.........save your plats....use pub instead....this should fix the problem? 

[Raygan]

"EXactly my point why it is needed, not everyone can play ALL day EVERY day"

These are the kinds of people who really get the benefit of using a FWP....also they arent the ones chewing up public zones either because they prefer to stay in their guild or raid instance.....

[CyanideTreatment]

yes orthanos you are right im just impatient when sometimes repop is longer then my play time lmao

[Noot]

I promise this won't be a back in my day/uphill both ways/corncobs for ass paper type of conversation.

I played for a few years on this server with 3 toons; Notouchie(SK), Metouchyou(Druid), and Touchmeh(Rogue).  Instances weren't a thing and trying to get casters/fighters guild stuff was awful.  To try and stack the deck, I would bind each of my toons in a place that dropped an item I needed.  Whenever I died derping around/endlessly farming Plane of Fear for xp, I had a chance to check camps and possibly get an item.  This also gave me a side income selling FG/CG items.  It took a long time, but I made it work for what was available to me, which also kept me playing because I had to be clever.

When instances came out, I tried to use them, but they were pretty expensive even for Plane of Time.  I realized this option was a convenience paywall that I haven't quite, for lack of a better word, earned yet.  I didn't have enough DPS to farm a lot of plat quickly, and I didn't play for several hour which would have extended the potential of my farming.  I wasn't bitter or resentful, I understood I haven't progressed far enough on this server to enjoy some of the more "finer things" in life here.  When I finally had enough expendable income to make an instance, I planned my day around it.  I treated this instance as an opportunity, and I also saw it as a sign of progression.  I had enough money to splurge on my very own zone.  It was another hook to keep me playing.

To me, instance costs aren't a punishment on newer players.  Instance costs are a benchmark in your own personal progression and wealth.  This is a luxury mechanic that isn't a requirement to progress.  It will make it go a hell of a lot faster, but it isn't actually game breaking.  The public zone might be occupied, that comes with playing on a server with other players.  You can always try to befriend them and work together, or check another zone like ToFS or a lower tier for essences farming or whatever you want to do.  The server is your oyster, but it's not just for you. If you find yourself so frustrated that you aren't moving fast enough, remind yourself of the game you're playing.  This is EverQuest, the massive multiplayer grindfest nightmare to casual gamers.  I avoid p99 because I don't want to relive the actual soul-crushing grind that EQ offers. 

A final thought.  As I stated in my Getting Started video, the server is pretty friendly, and most of us who own instance items will usually make you an instance if you ask nicely.  Like I said a paragraph ago, if you befriend people, who may also have an instance item, you could easily mooch instances from them.  You could also buy an instance item yourself, although if you're newer to the server I would understand the hesitation of spending that kind of money on a server you might not play long term.  It supports the server and other things.  I am about to buy a third one, because Corflunk is the hide and seek champion of Norrath.  Seriously, fuck that guy.  Do I need 3 to be successful on EZ?  No.  I hardly ever use my second one but it was my decision to invest in the server, and also my convenience when I needed additional instances/didn't feel like logging in toons that have the FWP.  If you don't want to put the plat/cash into it, then you don't have to use it. 

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