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[omnikain]

First things first allow me to get a couple things out of the way.  Yes, I'm aware that Akkadius informed us a couple events ago to take advantage of donations while they were available.  Myself, I was fairly new to the server at the time, but even so, I dropped a good deal of cash on donating.  Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful for the server and I was happy to donate and help support this community and server.  The rewards for donating were nice, but I really did also want to help support this community.

Allllll that said, I'm finding it a bit rough having run out of ZP's.  If it was honestly all from my own advancement, I really wouldn't care so much.  However, I have used A LOT to help advance new players, the majority of which I've never seen log on again.  Perhaps that's on my own naivety for not realizing what I was doing.  Long story short, I'm totally out of ZP's.

In any case, I'm trying to advance some new toons and it would be really nice to have some Zone Pulls to help the process along.  My main crew is in T10, so it's not like I haven't done my part so to speak.  Given the nature of the server, I almost feel they're required to a point.  Guess I'm just asking if donations cannot be enabled currently for any particular reason (I really don't want to be viewed as some kind of beggar), if there's any reason that ZP's couldn't at least be tradeable?  I have a feeling that a lot of maxed out folks have waaaaaay more than they really need and it would open up yet another good trading route for lower level players and players (like myself) that may just not have been really ready the last time an event rolled around.  Another option I've tossed around is having them ultra-rarely dropping at all times and not just during events.

I fully realize and accept that I'm a newer player in the grand scheme of things that hasn't really known much of the struggle without the convenience of zone pulls, but I also feel that at the current point in the life of the server, they are almost a necessity for an acceptable level of progression.  Maybe I'm out of line, but just how I'm feeling right now.  Thanks for reading.

[wachna]

Well if you focus a little longer on your main gang (or just on warrior as it stands) then you will get tons of zps in around 2 months … by that time and with your play style you should have full UA, the necessary gear from st and so you can focus on HoS .. starting with a big pull and continue over and over with zps .. after the event you can level all other toons and zp as often as you want

Greetings and see you soon
Mongo

[wolfegunr]

Maybe they could drop in the next zone that comes out?

[omnikain]

Well if you focus a little longer on your main gang (or just on warrior as it stands) then you will get tons of zps in around 2 months … by that time and with your play style you should have full UA, the necessary gear from st and so you can focus on HoS .. starting with a big pull and continue over and over with zps .. after the event you can level all other toons and zp as often as you want

Greetings and see you soon
Mongo

Well that's really part of why I made the post.  My job hours are pretty stupid at the moment and my play time has really suffered.  That isn't helping either of course.  I don't have the kind of time necessary to do much in t10 at the moment heh.

Good to see ya mongo

[wachna]

Ah that is bad but RL is always more important.
But anyway I still would use my play time for t10 if I was you
Every small step is a step pf progression towards maxing out of your warrior (and other toons)

I do the same … every time I log in atm I try to kill some orcs / sarnaks and hope for GSS … as I am too stupid for ZPs even tho I have 4 UA parts already, I do big pulls ..

I totally understand your point and atm I would like to have ZPs, DLs and TLs tradeable but as I said soon this wont be necessary anymore (I hope)

[Ginge]

I don't wanna come here and be the bad guys/ass hole but ZP Spears are not needed to complete any part of the content on EZ.

Do they make it easier, sure..Have people become reliant on them, definitely.

This is EZ=Extended Zone, not EZ=Easy, stuff is meant to be hard, t5 is not meant to be done in 2 days etc..

People have become almost too helpful these days, I don't mind helping people out but you've got people just pulling tier after tier for people and they get to t10 and can't do anything because they don't have SoA maxxed or any form of EoBA...

These things were implemented as a bonus but now people almost half expect someone to pull a zone for them or open them a triple, hell I've had people get pissy with me because I wouldn't run them through the whole of T10 and get them their 1000pb kills or do their faction for them...

You've got people joining the server and getting to t10 in under three weeks, that's not right but hey ho.

In the end you said it best

Perhaps that's on my own naivety for not realizing what I was doing

Akka has his reasons for closing donations and that's just the way it is at the moment.

Tank

[omnikain]

I don't wanna come here and be the bad guys/ass hole but ZP Spears are not needed to complete any part of the content on EZ.

Do they make it easier, sure..Have people become reliant on them, definitely.

This is EZ=Extended Zone, not EZ=Easy, stuff is meant to be hard, t5 is not meant to be done in 2 days etc..

People have become almost too helpful these days, I don't mind helping people out but you've got people just pulling tier after tier for people and they get to t10 and can't do anything because they don't have SoA maxxed or any form of EoBA...

These things were implemented as a bonus but now people almost half expect someone to pull a zone for them or open them a triple, hell I've had people get pissy with me because I wouldn't run them through the whole of T10 and get them their 1000pb kills or do their faction for them...

You've got people joining the server and getting to t10 in under three weeks, that's not right but hey ho.

In the end you said it best

Perhaps that's on my own naivety for not realizing what I was doing

Akka has his reasons for closing donations and that's just the way it is at the moment.

Tank

Yeah, so I wouldn't expect this from you but it is what it is.  It was just a question.  Everyone's received some help, myself certainly included, but despite my short tenure let's not pretend I started a week ago and rode someone's coat tails the whole way.  Not to mention I never asked for anything.  Anything I've gotten outside of a trade was 100% offered and quite often demanded that I take it.

All I was suggesting is that an avenue was opened up for people that had put some time in.  Go ahead and give 50 zone pulls to a level 70 and let them zone pull qvic.  I'll bring the popcorn.

As far as quoting me, yep I stand by that.  I did it because of the assistance I received.  Sucks to be a nice guy.

And for the millionth time im not begging for donations to be opened.  Like....providing alternatives.  My apologies.

[wachna]

What if one would add a ZP for every 750 kill in SR? Or to every boss kill in SR / ST? By the time one is able to do that kind of stuff you dont need that much help anymore or you already got some help to reach that point.

Anyway IMO adding ZP to drop list would not change people getting carried thru the game. There will always be people who are beggin to get carried thru the content no matter if there are some more ZPs available.. and there are always people who want to help others thru the content. Those are the guys with tons of ZPs and stuff like that.

Since my return in late January (damn time flies) I‘ve seen many people getting dragged to SR / ST in no time … some of em are gone.. some still play.. that is the way it goes.

So I would say people who actually play and kill in SR and above can surely be rewarded with a ZP after some kills. It still will take some time to use it in that zone

[Draca]

     Zone pull spears were intended to be a fairly rare, thus fairly valuable novelty. Most players were unable to zone pull Hills of Shade, and so for a while they were. At some point though, as more and more maxed out players began stacking up, the amount of zone pull spears has increased exponentially (I have 4000+).  Due to this, it definitely makes it feel like it's something you have to have, or that you're being cheated if you don't have immediate access to them, and neither one is true.  Do they help cut down some of the more monotonous aspects of grinding? Of course they do. Are those grinds not doable without them? Of course not, they just suck, like they were designed too. They are a limited time available item, if you weren't ready the last time they were available, whether through EZ Credits or Halloween, just make sure you're ready to capitalize on them the next time they are.

     Akkadius has explained before that donations are only to help him cover the operational costs of running the server, it's not a business for him. At some point, the EZ Server piggy bank simply has enough to cover costs for a significant amount of time, and donations must be shut off.

     I don't speak for Akkadius or Rent, but I wouldn't vote to add zone pull spears to any bosses, or quest rewards, and won't add them to any of my developments in the future. While the Halloween event timing, or donation availability is not always perfectly timed for everyone to be able to capitalize, that has always been true, and no one is at any specific disadvantage.

[omnikain]

    Zone pull spears were intended to be a fairly rare, thus fairly valuable novelty. Most players were unable to zone pull Hills of Shade, and so for a while they were. At some point though, as more and more maxed out players began stacking up, the amount of zone pull spears has increased exponentially (I have 4000+).  Due to this, it definitely makes it feel like it's something you have to have, or that you're being cheated if you don't have immediate access to them, and neither one is true.  Do they help cut down some of the more monotonous aspects of grinding? Of course they do. Are those grinds not doable without them? Of course not, they just suck, like they were designed too. They are a limited time available item, if you weren't ready the last time they were available, whether through EZ Credits or Halloween, just make sure you're ready to capitalize on them the next time they are.

     Akkadius has explained before that donations are only to help him cover the operational costs of running the server, it's not a business for him. At some point, the EZ Server piggy bank simply has enough to cover costs for a significant amount of time, and donations must be shut off.

     I don't speak for Akkadius or Rent, but I wouldn't vote to add zone pull spears to any bosses, or quest rewards, and won't add them to any of my developments in the future. While the Halloween event timing, or donation availability is not always perfectly timed for everyone to be able to capitalize, that has always been true, and no one is at any specific disadvantage.

Most certainly an appreciated and logical response.  I completely understand and appreciate you taking the time Draca.  I also appreciate your understanding of my position.  Hopefully the next time HoS rolls around I will be more prepared.  Thanks again.

[Ginge]

I don't wanna come here and be the bad guys/ass hole but ZP Spears are not needed to complete any part of the content on EZ.

Do they make it easier, sure..Have people become reliant on them, definitely.

This is EZ=Extended Zone, not EZ=Easy, stuff is meant to be hard, t5 is not meant to be done in 2 days etc..

People have become almost too helpful these days, I don't mind helping people out but you've got people just pulling tier after tier for people and they get to t10 and can't do anything because they don't have SoA maxxed or any form of EoBA...

These things were implemented as a bonus but now people almost half expect someone to pull a zone for them or open them a triple, hell I've had people get pissy with me because I wouldn't run them through the whole of T10 and get them their 1000pb kills or do their faction for them...

You've got people joining the server and getting to t10 in under three weeks, that's not right but hey ho.

In the end you said it best

Perhaps that's on my own naivety for not realizing what I was doing

Akka has his reasons for closing donations and that's just the way it is at the moment.

Tank

Yeah, so I wouldn't expect this from you but it is what it is.  It was just a question.  Everyone's received some help, myself certainly included, but despite my short tenure let's not pretend I started a week ago and rode someone's coat tails the whole way.  Not to mention I never asked for anything.  Anything I've gotten outside of a trade was 100% offered and quite often demanded that I take it.

All I was suggesting is that an avenue was opened up for people that had put some time in.  Go ahead and give 50 zone pulls to a level 70 and let them zone pull qvic.  I'll bring the popcorn.

As far as quoting me, yep I stand by that.  I did it because of the assistance I received.  Sucks to be a nice guy.

And for the millionth time im not begging for donations to be opened.  Like....providing alternatives.  My apologies.

I think you took what I was saying too personally. It wasn't intended as an attack on you in the slightest...

Draca just put what I said more eloquently.

Tank

[omnikain]

I think you took what I was saying too personally. It wasn't intended as an attack on you in the slightest...

Draca just put what I said more eloquently.

Tank

You're good, and I apologize.  A lot of it was my bad day at work coming out

[WatchYouDie]

Zp's make things easier... also it also killed some of the allure of this server. so it's  balance. I understand newer players get frustrated not having them but in reality you wont really get full use out of them until later anyways. IG pets are a huge upgraded and only drop when the event is going on. it's the same type of thing. They are rewards for doing the special events. making them full time would take away from spirit of the event.

[Sanjii]

Honestly I would just like to purchase a race change for my main toon. Mistakes were made ...

[wachna]

Does it make a big difference? I mean my main is a friggin frog … lol

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