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[Hunter]

Updated LDoN Charm Drops and Combines

Location of drops
----------------
Level 1 - None
Level 2 - Brawlers
Level 3 - Guardians
Level 4 - Oracle
Level 5 - Sorcer
Level 6 - All 4 Charms

Old chances from trash
Level 2-5 = 1/1000
Level 6 = 1/165 for any random charm or 1/660 for specific charm

New chances from trash
Level 2-5 = 1/666
Level 6 = 1/250 for any random charm or 1/1000 for specific charm

So if your working on Ultimate Charm, LDoN 6 with 1/250 is better than other levels at 1/666.

But if you only care about 1 type of charm, like the Guardians, then fighting on level 3 is faster with 1/666 than fighting on level level 6 at 1/1000.

Bosses on all levels are still very low chance to make it not worth farming them just for the charm upgrades.

All charms 1-25 and 26-50 have their combines in the Magic Box now.

For levels 1-25 you'll need the upgrades from LDoN and for 26-50 you'll need to combine the stone from T3/T4 Hohonora zone.

Enjoy!

[ieawenpo]

Very nice.
But, it still doesn't address the over camped issues as its still best to hit level 6 and hope for any upgrade.

[ieawenpo]

Is it possible to just add
"Level 6 = 1/250 for any random charm or 1/1000 for specific charm"

To other zones that may not be in use as much anymore?

[Lastrictus]

I m sure it was not intented as a nerf but that's what it is at the end:

Old chances from trash Level 6 = 1/165 -> best old chance to get an upgrade.
New chances from trash Level 6 = 1/250 -> best new chance to get an upgrade.

anyway, on an overall basis, good work !

[ieawenpo]

I m sure it was not intented as a nerf but that's what it is at the end:

Old chances from trash Level 6 = 1/165 -> best old chance to get an upgrade.
New chances from trash Level 6 = 1/250 -> best new chance to get an upgrade.

anyway, on an overall basis, good work !

This is a concern because we still have a hundred people or more looking to get UC's.

[Gnaughty]

I know I sound like a huge fag fanboy but damn Hunter this is rockin since yesterday I accepted the drop rates you had.  i think some serious thank yous are in order from alot of people.

[Tuomo]

However, it really needs to be that big of a timesink to justify the stats and effects you get on that charm.

This is exactly what everyone needs to get into their heads. Currently, this item is "the" item on this server. It really is a game changer as far as trivializing almost all of the content in this game (for the most part).

[Hunter]

The Ultimate Charm is the BEST item in the game, even breaking 80% of the content. Its been intended to be a near impossible grind to get with super stats like 50k hp. I wouldn't expect anymore than 1% of active players to have one. Just to get regular charms rank 26-50, you need to be flagged for the T3/T4 zone to farm gems, which limits how many people can even farm it. In case anyone forgot, here is a screenshot of the stats. Screenshot is old though, cause the Focus was updated to allow the healing focus to work in addition to the damage focus, all-in-one focus effect.

[Padme]

Well, thats right, if every player in the server get it easy and fast, this shouldnt be cool ...
I think it need to be a pain to get and actually, people keep wanting to get stuff faster and easier...

[walk2k]

LOL math.  Someone explain this to me..

"Level 6 = 1/250 for any random charm or 1/1000 for specific charm"

But, level 6 drops all 4 charms, what does that last part mean??

Also I'm having a hard time seeing how it's worth it to farm level 2-5 instead of 6 because:

Level 2-5 = 1/666
but
Level 6 = 1/250 for any random charm

So better than 2x chance to drop a charm on level 6, seems like it's better to take your chances there and turn in the charms you don't need (or keep them if you plan to get UC).

[trendkiller]

I agree walk, BUT this is a HUGE leap forward to the fine tuning of this issue. And if it stays this way for a bit...it helps....ALOT.

thanks hunter, great upgrade on this issue!

[Balthor2]

its a good update

[walk2k]

I appreciate the updates I'm just trying to understand the math here...

I definitely think it's a good thing not to have charms and epic pages on the same mobs, I always thought that was weird and created a strange situation where you have uber-T3/T4 geared guys and brand new -trying to get 2.0 players competing for the same mobs..

But the drop rates don't seem like a move in the right direction.  I'm not even talking about getting UC I'll never have that.. just getting 1 or 2 charms past level 10 is a BIG bitch.. I've been doing almost nothing but Ldon for 2-3 hours a day for like 2 weeks now (and pretty bored of it) and I have one level 8 and one level 5..  As far as I can tell the drop rate is now 1/3 less what it was before (1/165 vs 1/250) .. why??

Look I hate to sit here and bitch about a free game but I just hope there's more planned here, and not just for the T3/T4 people.  I hope some day to be doing that stuff maybe, but it won't be any time soon..  I do appreciate the updates don't get me wrong.  On that note is there an ETA to have Brawler's charm working? 

[walk2k]

"Level 6 = 1/250 for any random charm or 1/1000 for specific charm"

OH ok I get it now... since there's 4 charms you have 1/250 x 4 or 1/1000 chance for a specific one you want.

So before we had 1/165 x 4 = 1/660 chance for a specific one on LDON6.
NOW we have 1/666 chance (about the same) for a specific one on levels 2-5.

That makes sense, and might spread people out a bit.

[ieawenpo]

"Level 6 = 1/250 for any random charm or 1/1000 for specific charm"

OH ok I get it now... since there's 4 charms you have 1/250 x 4 or 1/1000 chance for a specific one you want.

So before we had 1/165 x 4 = 1/660 chance for a specific one on LDON6.
NOW we have 1/666 chance (about the same) for a specific one on levels 2-5.

That makes sense, and might spread people out a bit.

Yes, but if your goal is ultimate charm, as most is. Then you are still better off in LDON6.

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