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[Crabthewall]

I have full right to comment on whether or not a quest is "proven", "not proven" or even speculatively difficult because thats it, its just a comment.

On a side note, I think you guys are personally too attached to the upper end content and are slightly biased when commenting on quests or content lower down in the game.

Hey just wanted to comment on these two things.

1. I have a right to comment on particle physics and string theory since it's just that a comment - the problem is when I actually end up in a conversation with someone that actually understands what particle physics and string theory I just end up looking like a moron

2. I think you are right - we are personally attached to the high end upper content and hate to see it get turned down too quickly. Most of us on the high end have been playing a very long time - and hope to continue to do so. If the content gets turned down too quick (aka dragon armor and t1 rot bot - glad they are in now but would have hated it back then since I would have been stuck with nothing to do for months) it means everyone slides up to the top end content right away which leaves nothing left to do and achieve and it gets over-crowded up here, that's how high end players burn out.

Just like in EQ the top end content tends to get made easier as expansions release and things get easier and people move up, it's just generally a step behind. That's normal and expected in all online games - everyone will get there in time, but give it time. I've been farming in t3/t4 and testing mcp since February - so do the math on how many months that is as an example. I guess until new content comes out, plan on spending that amount of time (already been shortened though with charm upgrades being 16 not 64, and red stones not getting consumed on each port per player up to airplane like it used to be) to get to the same place, so now maybe you can do it in 2-3 months of farming, is that so vastly different than t1/t2 prior to rot bot/dragon class?

[sohami]

Iae, agree w/ charms comment. It's been run over several times, i looked at it with optimism, but i'm finding myself hella bored farming after farming and not having one charm to my name after a weekend of (as much as i can possibly tolerate) farming. What kinda weekend is that ;p

but then again maybe im just bitchin'

[nuska]

Fun fact about live. 2008-12-23 was when the first guild beat tower. Official release date of the next expansion was December 15, 2009 or if ya pre-ordered you got in December 8.
 
also, read this link below, its like a history of exploits!

http://www.trialityguild.com/tb/bb-m9-ThrdDpl-v09.html?t=20321&seq=56a69a57e108d2389cd57fa2d1d7dd58

[Balthor2]

You are comparing Apples to Oranges by saying that you've not done finished the UC but you know it's a pain in the butt. In that example you have seen everything required to do the UC, you just haven't finished it. You can calculate about how long it will take you to farm four charms to 25 in LDoN. You know how long it will take you to get the Cyan stones required to make your 50 charms. So in that example you know exactly what it will take for you to complete the UC.

That said, you and your guild have not spawned The MCP. Therefore any comments by you on it's difficulty is purely speculative. I've also noticed that a good portion of your speculation is based on inaccurate information. Yes, FoH has put 20+ people in airplane to down The MCP. It just so happens that we had that many people in the zone because that is who happened to be online when we decided we were going to kill some mobs. After you've tried the mob a couple of times then you can intelligently comment on it's difficulty.

There are three guilds on this server that could down The MCP if they took the time to farm the stones and learn the fight. Forbidden Prophecy, Rising of Light and Bastions of Honor.

Quoted for the truth of it.
Other people should listen when someone that at least knows wtf they are talking about talks about a subject they know.
Stop bitching about how you will never see a 4.0 because guess what fuckers, 3 guilds are close to being able to do it.

Oh well people are being hardheaded so I guess the 4.0 book link when I finally get it will just have to prove the point.

[ieawenpo]

Stop bitching about how you will never see a 4.0 because guess what fuckers, 3 guilds are close to being able to do it.

My guild is close and I am not speaking about this event from my guilds perspective, Im speaking of the event in the eyes of someone lower looking up.

I think this maybe the issue.
See, someone returning to the game (like the other thread) or someone progressing through t1 currently will look at that sentence and think "oh shit, I aint ever gonna see my 4.0 if it requires a guild".

You guys ARE RIGHT.
What may require a guild today, 2 or more groups or x amount of players will be substantially less in the next 6 months as more people obtain the 4.0's.

Example, someone gets pissed at a guild and decided to pull their toons out of it, they start a new guild and that new guild has 4.0's already and can farm the 4.0's for their new guild.

I think myself and others forget how hard the 3.0 would be to obtain with just 2.5s in your group.

Its like take a plane t1 outfitted group and go attempt Kronos. You will get owned.
But, once that t1 group gets a few good items from those folks above them, they can soon farm Kronos. Just as the first attempts at Kronos required multiple groups, its perfectly acceptable for the 4.0 to require it.

I was wrong about the 4.0 in the aspect that even if it did take 13 or 18 toons today (the exact number is irrelevant), it will eventually become as trivial as Kronos is to some.

Maybe its the length of progression through t2/3 that is disconcerting, dunno.

[Budzwar]

You mean you are close because someone got a 4.0 for you? so you'll be able to cheese the rest of your guild through it now with your super 4.0 powers. lol.

Seriously man, just shut the fuck up already, everyone knows that Crab and Yellow are always right, so get back on your knees where you belong.

Oh btw the picture in the other thread was only funny when Yellow did it because at least he can actually kill the 4.0 boss himself, unlike your bitch ass.

You probably still wipe to Kronos even with your 4.0.

[Xiggie | Stone]

The statement about the 4.0 being the only epic that requires more than one group is relative to the times. At one time, many of you may not believe this, but even the 1.5 took more than a group to obtain. Every epic has made the previous content trivial. Hell at one time the badest warrior on the server was barely a 30k warrior with a 3.0 and a 2.5. Hell at one time my monk was the best monk on the server with 52k hp and just under 3k regen. The closest monk to my monk was over 20k hp away. But times change, what was once hard is now trivial. What is hard now, will one day be trivial. A year from now someone will be on the forums bragging about getting his 5's, two 5.0's and 500k hp. To be honest, saying that the 4.0 is impossible to get is being short sighted in the same way that a year ago the 3.0 was called impossible to get. Someone was actually on the forums at ez.makeforum.org and said that the majority of the server will never see their 3.0's.

[ieawenpo]

You mean you are close because someone got a 4.0 for you? so you'll be able to cheese the rest of your guild through it now with your super 4.0 powers. lol.

Seriously man, just shut the fuck up already, everyone knows that Crab and Yellow are always right, so get back on your knees where you belong.

Oh btw the picture in the other thread was only funny when Yellow did it because at least he can actually kill the 4.0 boss himself, unlike your bitch ass.

You probably still wipe to Kronos even with your 4.0.

You are one angry kid.

[ieawenpo]

The statement about the 4.0 being the only epic that requires more than one group is relative to the times. At one time, many of you may not believe this, but even the 1.5 took more than a group to obtain. Every epic has made the previous content trivial. Hell at one time the badest warrior on the server was barely a 30k warrior with a 3.0 and a 2.5. Hell at one time my monk was the best monk on the server with 52k hp and just under 3k regen. The closest monk to my monk was over 20k hp away. But times change, what was once hard is now trivial. What is hard now, will one day be trivial. A year from now someone will be on the forums bragging about getting his 5's, two 5.0's and 500k hp. To be honest, saying that the 4.0 is impossible to get is being short sighted in the same way that a year ago the 3.0 was called impossible to get. Someone was actually on the forums at ez.makeforum.org and said that the majority of the server will never see their 3.0's.

This is why I now agree.

[ieawenpo]

You mean you are close because someone got a 4.0 for you? so you'll be able to cheese the rest of your guild through it now with your super 4.0 powers. lol.

Seriously man, just shut the fuck up already, everyone knows that Crab and Yellow are always right, so get back on your knees where you belong.

Oh btw the picture in the other thread was only funny when Yellow did it because at least he can actually kill the 4.0 boss himself, unlike your bitch ass.

You probably still wipe to Kronos even with your 4.0.

You are one angry kid.

You're a dipshit. Maybe if you didn't have your head between some guys legs all the time you would see that.

You realize that of the 35 posts you have on this forum your contributed absolutely nothing to any conversation?
You also need to stop being so vulgar as we have forum rules.
This is a game. Maybe you should relax a bit and not resort to personal vulgar attacks.

[Budzwar]

Im sorry you are threatened by my internet comments. Words on a screen really hurt don't they?  I contribute plenty of laughter to any conversation I'm in thank you very much .


ps. this is a game, and you are bad at it.

[ieawenpo]

Im sorry you are threatened by my internet comments. Words on a screen really hurt don't they?  I contribute plenty of laughter to any conversation I'm in thank you very much .


ps. this is a game, and you are bad at it.

Threatened i am not.
Asking you to follow board rules is just that.
And if you truly believe you contribute to conversations here other than trolling, I suggest you review your posts.

[SinjynWake]

I just have to jump in and thank Ieawenpo for his continued support. He always helps anyone when asked. He has helped me a few times and just tonight when I helped a mage walk through 1.5/CG/2.0 runs, he helped kill MoW after we wiped a couple times.

Thank you! Your attitude toward this game is much appreciated!

[sohami]

Only posts i've ever seen you make Budz are trash. Don't care if you think what you post is true or not. It shows you have no character or integrity.

[swamphy]

Ieawenpo's ability at this game is not in question. You are obviously a petty troll attempting to get a reaction. I invite you to consider a less destructive hobby.

Ieawenpo is also the most liked person on this server hands down. He is constantly helping and encouraging others. So your lame attempts to insult him make you look really stupid.

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