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[Darpey]

It's certainly fundamentally and unarguably game-CHANGING (I would argue in a negative way) gotta agree with Kiwis here.

I have 14 toons that are expeditionable. I would get 21 SLS *PER DAY* at that rate. Hell, even if it was @ 25 berries per SLS, I'd get 8 EVERY SINGLE DAY for 30 minutes worth of work... cause that's how long it takes Darpey to solo Dranik + Abyss

That's insane.

[Fliker]

if SLS = 25 berries
toon starting with 0 berries

day 1 each toon = 15 berries each = you get NOTHING
day 2 another 15 berries per toon = each toon could buy 1 SLS with 5 berries remaining

am i the only one seeing this? create berries from your inventory "NO TRADE" and selling has been DISABLED

"IF" SLS were to be put back on the queen, i would recommend them being sold for 30 berries each

1 sls per toon every 2 days

[Dimur]

Think big picture: 12 toons in Dranik + 6 prisms (3 berries each) = 138 berries
12 toons in Abyss + 4 prisms on avg (3 berries each) = 72 berries

Except that prisms are worth jack shit and don't sell back at all, let alone 3 berries per prism.

Fliker's logic is sound though.

[Warbash]

if SLS = 25 berries
toon starting with 0 berries

day 1 each toon = 15 berries each = you get NOTHING
day 2 another 15 berries per toon = each toon could buy 1 SLS with 5 berries remaining

am i the only one seeing this? create berries from your inventory "NO TRADE" and selling has been DISABLED

"IF" SLS were to be put back on the queen, i would recommend them being sold for 30 berries each

1 sls per toon every 2 days

actually Abyss is 5 berries, Drankik is 15 berries.

[Fugitive]

actually Abyss is 5 berries, Drankik is 15 berries.

...

[Warbash]

actually Abyss is 5 berries, Drankik is 15 berries.

...

Lol wait, am I wrong rofl. I am second guessing myself hehe.

[Fugitive]

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It tells you the reward amount and 5 and 15 are wrong, its 5 and 10

[Darpey]

First, you know I love you Warbash

you can probably average 10 SLS an hour in Jaggedpine

I've certainly never been able to get 10 SLS per hour, more like 4? Maybe I'm not remembering right.

You get 15 berries per day per toon, not 20.

15 berries per day * amount of toons (14) = a TOTAL of 210 berries per day for me
(I know some of you will say, "but not every character can buy a SLS each day" - that doesn't matter, we're talking long run, and it will normalize)

210 berries per day @ 30 per SLS = 7 SLS per day
= 49 SLS per week for a total investment of 3.5 hours

In current world - 49 SLS would cost me 17 million platinum (and that's using a LOW price of 350k, rounding DOWN)

17 million platinum worth of items for 3.5 hours of work?

And i'm giving you the benefit of all variables I used... If i were to use the proposed 10 berry price instead of 30, it would be 51 million platinum worth of items (147 SLS's) for 3.5 hours of work.

[Darpey]

Which isn't to say that the SLS system is perfect... grinding in Jaggedpine for hours and hours and hours... but I don't think berries is the way to fix it, if it indeed needs fixing.

[Warbash]

Removed post due to bad math
I don't think its right to use plat as the comparison, need to use time it takes to get sls oneself and compare.

[Fliker]

actually Abyss is 5 berries, Drankik is 15 berries.

...

Lol wait, am I wrong rofl. I am second guessing myself hehe.

[Fliker]

Which isn't to say that the SLS system is perfect... grinding in Jaggedpine for hours and hours and hours... but I don't think berries is the way to fix it, if it indeed needs fixing.

im not complaining one bit about the sls grind.
i just want something useful on the queen for those toons with no UW and UC1 finished

just used sls cause it was there when it started.
would like run speed put back up too

[Dimur]

I'm pretty sure the reason berries was brought up was so people could get SLS during normal gameplay and at a rate that is somewhat reasonable.  Berries are an alternate currency, after all, and the idea of being able to buy something with alternate currency has merit.  And to anyone claiming that realistically getting SLS anywhere but JP, NK or T9 is somehow going to ruin normal gameplay...it's absolutely trivial to farm them in NK and JP...likely by the time you're able to farm them in T9 you won't have much need for them anyhow.  I have more SLS than I need and have just been banking them as I get them, but I'm also not going to sell them off because I loathe the idea of having to farm them again if I do something that requires a supply of them.

The whole point of this thread is that as it currently stands, you can't farm SLS in relevant content reasonably (qualifying this statement with reasonably for those who suggest having them drop off a T3/4 or w/e mob that requires HoH tokens to spawn is relevant content) until you get to the point of not really needing them.  And I'm not talking about the multitude of people who buy their gear/flags 3 tiers ahead of the rest of their group and end up in T9 still needing a shitload of SLS to bring their alts current in strikes, etc and are T9 flagged with no hope of farming SLS there efficiently because they lack the dps and support classes required to do so.  Plat used to be the choke point more than SLS, and the plat problem has been addressed in spades...now SLS are the choke point and some people suggest that having them be the choke point should be addressed.  I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can see their point.

[Raygan]

Quote from: Orthanos on Today at 06:23:00 AM

Why would you not need to farm SLS if they were put on the Hive Queen?  At 25 points a pop that's what 5 SLS every two days (assuming that on a 6 man team you have 5 banking berries and 1 working on UW augs).  5 every two days isn't game breaking, it's hardly a dent.  My point to this whole post was making things reasonable.


Think big picture: 12 toons in Dranik + 6 prisms (3 berries each) = 138 berries
12 toons in Abyss + 4 prisms on avg (3 berries each) = 72 berries

Thats 210 berries a day, or 8 SLS a day (and change). If u only run 6 toons thats 120 berries a day, or 5 SLS a day.

In the last month if vendor was in anyone with a pulse is up 240 SLS w/ 12 toons, or 150 SLS with 6 toons.

Its game breaking. I hate saying it out loud, but its true.

If berries were droppable and you could give all berries to one toon AND you could sell prisms back, maybe.  As it stands now you get 90 berries a day for all 6 toons (15 berries per toon per day)  so once again...1 SLS per toon every two days=not game breaking.

[Kardthe]

Slimy Sapphire of Cowardice allows for up to 75% aggro reduction. That along with Hatestomp and Angerbomb - your crew should have no problems with aggro

But it would be cool to see some sort of trinket on Hive Queen

LOL... i know... was more of a joke... Hateborne... Loveborne... etc...

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