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[Nocca]

I asked Fugitive to consider posting on this topic and he may still but until then I had thought further about the desire for Angry nerd 6-7 as before I was hopeful Hunter would release this for all but now that I've considered it further I think it might just make more sense that 6 and or 7 be 2hs restricted considering your augment slots with 2hs are obviously halved this may make more sense in that case not for extra hate as that is agreeably unnecessary.. Your thoughts?

Nocca

[Noel]

I would suggest restricting them by class (WAR) but allowing to put on either 2HS or 1HS. Perhaps in keeping with  AN4 (1500DD and 125000Hate) and AN5 (1000 AE dmg( - AN6 should be (25000 DD+125000 hate) and AN7 should be 2000 direct damage).

OR

make AN6 1HS and AN7 2HS.

[hateborne]

Wasn't the point of the warrior 2h to be the trade off between dps and tanking?

If so, seems like making the augs nullify that change as counterproductive.

-Hate

[Nocca]

In retrospect of your past post about destroying t4 warrior breastplate in an anti warrior stance I'd have to say your opionion on this warrior specific post is counter productive hateborne =p

Nocca

[hateborne]

Yes, but you don't see me trying to champion SK getting new buffs to make them stupid durable while maintaining (or buffing) their damage.

So, the intention IS to give warriors back stupid high dps while maintaining tank god mode? Sorry, but I cannot agree here. EZ Server is starting to develop class identity. Players are slowly diversifying their group make up. If you give the warrior near (or at) top DPS again, it will go back to 4-5 warriors and 2 clerics in EVERY group again.

No. No. Please No.

-Hate

[Griz]

SKs are already super durable though. Mine is in T3 except for a T4 bp with a UC and only RoA20, and I can solo trash in the abyss. Clearly I need to level a second cleric so he can have perma stonewall!

[hateborne]

Griz, my point went up and over friend.

I was just making comment on the absurdity of giving a class the best of both worlds...again.

Yes I do despise the warrior fad, but I will no let my feelings/opinions for a class cloud my judgement as a whole.

I see this change returning the state we are still trying hard to get away from. The "all plate, all the time" groups. Hopefully we can finally work in to true class identity again soon.

But back on track, NO. Giving the undeniably best tank a massive damage bonus too is just a bit over the top.

-Hate

[Griz]

Well, I think all 3 tanks are in a pretty good place. Warrior is the best with support, paladins are viable tanks but also pretty necessary for groups, and SKs are amazingly self reliant. Hell even monks are fairly decent offtanks for stuff like MCP if they have the sceptre of time to get aggro with.

Even though there are a number of outstanding balance issues for other classes (especially viability of druid/shaman/enchanter/bard for anything other than buffs), the tanks are pretty interbalanced.

[Natedog]

Warriors in their current state in my opinion do not need any buffs.

The new 2hs is meant to create survivability and lose a bit of dps.

Reason why I see trouble in NEW augs... I will give you a situation..

Equip my 6.0 2hder...
click to get 30 min buff... for tankage
Equip two 1hders with NEW higher dps augs...
Behold the best survivability DPS in the game...


Right now warriors fit their position .. "Best" tank .. the little bit of dps they add is low but thats the tradeoff

[wolfegunr]

Yeah there is no need at this time for anger aug update. Warriors have been fixed with the new 2hs. This is an outdated concept.

[Nakemdun]

Also if you want more dps for warriors you can always add Icestrike augs.

[hateborne]

As long as I am not the only one that feels that way!

-Hate

[Brokyn]

I absolutely agree.  The whole point of warriors existence is to absorb damage and hold aggro, not to be dps... 

[Xiggie | Stone]

If this is done then groups would just go back to being nothing but paladins and warriors. This is pretty much where we moved away from.

[hateborne]

Holy friggin' crap, did Xiggie and I just see mostly eye to eye?

IT'S A SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE! TAKE COVER!

Seriously though, it seems insane to go back to something that we are finally moving out away from. If anything, before we worry about extreme high end warriors augs...where are the caster augs? (To be fair, we need to agree on what a caster aug should have as an effect)

-Hate

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