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« Reply #45 on: October 22, 2012, 09:35:56 pm »

Ok, back to the top and has anyone had this work fort hem yet? So far for me i have yet to live/survive from a normal melee death and have yet to survive any death/shout/kills from mata muram.

SO is my luck still just that bad?  Lips sealed
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« Reply #46 on: October 22, 2012, 09:49:11 pm »

Doesn't look like it got changed correctly to effectid 232  ... /shrug


Once it gets changed and a spell file comes out it should work just fine
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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2012, 01:11:05 pm »

Sorry to "revive the dead", but was this ever fixed? I die so often that I have since given up on using it in game.

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« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2012, 03:31:26 pm »

Sorry to "revive the dead", but was this ever fixed? I die so often that I have since given up on using it in game.

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It requres an AA for the "Divine Save" one to work... so nope



"Death Save" -- no longer procs on death and is pretty much useless



If everyone had the Cleric AA then it would work -- cant think of the AA off hand... maybe Touch of the Divine?



If you cast DI on your cleric and kill the cleric you can see it proc
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« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2012, 04:44:42 pm »

nod only on Cleric everyone else.. must to the merry go round zoning preview..
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« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2012, 04:50:41 pm »

It requres an AA for the "Divine Save" one to work... so nope



"Death Save" -- no longer procs on death and is pretty much useless



If everyone had the Cleric AA then it would work -- cant think of the AA off hand... maybe Touch of the Divine?



If you cast DI on your cleric and kill the cleric you can see it proc

Thank you for the info Paldail. I'll see what can be done. I may have a dirty trick that won't require Hunter to modify each source manually. Maybe.

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« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2012, 04:58:28 pm »

It requres an AA for the "Divine Save" one to work... so nope



"Death Save" -- no longer procs on death and is pretty much useless



If everyone had the Cleric AA then it would work -- cant think of the AA off hand... maybe Touch of the Divine?



If you cast DI on your cleric and kill the cleric you can see it proc

Thank you for the info Paldail. I'll see what can be done. I may have a dirty trick that won't require Hunter to modify each source manually. Maybe.

-Hate

Ohh dirty.. would be neat to see this working again go go gadget Hateborne
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« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2012, 05:15:53 pm »

It requres an AA for the "Divine Save" one to work... so nope



"Death Save" -- no longer procs on death and is pretty much useless



If everyone had the Cleric AA then it would work -- cant think of the AA off hand... maybe Touch of the Divine?



If you cast DI on your cleric and kill the cleric you can see it proc

Thank you for the info Paldail. I'll see what can be done. I may have a dirty trick that won't require Hunter to modify each source manually. Maybe.

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On my test server I just give everyone the AA and set the AA to 0% divine save instead of 2%


Then divine save can be modded by items AND spells ...


So if you have a Slot 1 spell  25% Divine Save -- it would work WITH the AA to save the player from death ...


Then maybe another item with a worn as  Slot 2 spell 25% Divine save.. they would stack to 50% Divine save!!


I did a lot of messing around with the AA and a few spells .. mostly just to give myself 100% immunity to death while not being 100% invuln
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« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2012, 05:19:04 pm »

What would be a appropriate number for a chance to save on EZ btw?
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« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2012, 05:36:24 pm »

What would be a appropriate number for a chance to save on EZ btw?

50% max I'd think.. anything over that is too good
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« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2012, 05:53:55 pm »

I cannot log in at the moment, but it was 2% DI per rank and ~5 ranks?

(Gotta make sure or I could accidentally give everyone DI...)

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« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2012, 06:40:09 pm »

It requres an AA for the "Divine Save" one to work... so nope

I'm looking at the code, and although the AA bonus adds to whatever spell or item bonus you have, it doesn't look like it is required in order to trigger.

I'm not looking at the spell file right now, but if the spell was never changed to use effect id 232 (Divine Save) then it isn't something that can prevent an actual death.  If it is still effect id 150 (Death Save) then it can trigger anytime a hit takes a character to < 16% health, but only if that hit does not kill them.
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« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2012, 06:43:54 pm »

the problem is the  hits normal go beyond killing you that allowed it to trigger in the past with those changed earlier in the year.. basically since the damage output of the mobs are / is so high it never allows a chance for DI to trigger properly.
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« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2012, 06:45:44 pm »

the problem is the  hits normal go beyond killing you that allowed it to trigger in the past with those changed earlier in the year.. basically since the damage output of the mobs are / is so high it never allows a chance for DI to trigger properly.

Yes, that is the problem with spells using effect id 150, but not spells that use effect id 232.

They are mutually exclusive.  If you're dead, a 232 can save you, otherwise if you're not dead but below 16% then a 150 can heal you.
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« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2012, 06:47:09 pm »


Buffs that use SE_DivineSave (232) can still save you from an instant death.  It shouldn't be hard to change/add spells to do that instead if that is what is desired.


lol 2nd post on 1st page I remember that now..
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