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« on: May 13, 2014, 10:04:15 am »

Was just curious if its safe to make the upper ranks of the dagger. Can the new code handle 30 mil backstabs?
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2014, 10:25:02 am »

Was just curious if its safe to make the upper ranks of the dagger. Can the new code handle 30 mil backstabs?


Don't think so.. when damage mods are applied it still rolls over before then
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2014, 10:31:07 am »

Before the source update: 60 to 70% of my backstabs with 6.0 300 hp damage or less. After the source code update 60 to 70% of my backstabs 300 hp damage or less. But I dont think this is a rollover issue. I think its an issue Sony fixed live around SoF or SoD or so that found its way here with updates but hasnt been fixed. And no, I dont know what it was....just remember rogues bitching then celebrating during that time about backstab damage.

Either way my rogue sits unplayed. Ranger, monk, pet classes way better ST dps.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2014, 11:26:07 am »

Was just curious if its safe to make the upper ranks of the dagger. Can the new code handle 30 mil backstabs?

Before the source update: 60 to 70% of my backstabs with 6.0 300 hp damage or less. After the source code update 60 to 70% of my backstabs 300 hp damage or less. But I dont think this is a rollover issue. I think its an issue Sony fixed live around SoF or SoD or so that found its way here with updates but hasnt been fixed. And no, I dont know what it was....just remember rogues bitching then celebrating during that time about backstab damage.

Either way my rogue sits unplayed. Ranger, monk, pet classes way better ST dps.
Before the source update: 60 to 70% of my backstabs with 6.0 300 hp damage or less. After the source code update 60 to 70% of my backstabs 300 hp damage or less. But I dont think this is a rollover issue. I think its an issue Sony fixed live around SoF or SoD or so that found its way here with updates but hasnt been fixed. And no, I dont know what it was....just remember rogues bitching then celebrating during that time about backstab damage.

Either way my rogue sits unplayed. Ranger, monk, pet classes way better ST dps.

The source update did not change the upper limits for damage. What was fixed recently was the Daggerfall effect going to worn and 1/3 of the values. The 1000% increase in backstabs was causing the rollover. ~125k weapon x 101 = ~12.6 mil backstab base. This would only affect one backstab and then go on cooldown. The new buff form is permanent and affects ALL backstabs (but is ~1/3 of the original value). This should no longer be an issue until we hit T15 or so (guesstimating based on weapon damage and effect scaling).


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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2014, 11:28:48 am »

Ever since the rogue epic switched to being a worn effect within the last month, my rogue triple backstabs for 500k-800k with the t8 dagger, so rogue is doing just fine now chunk. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2014, 12:02:22 pm »

Gotta wonder what I'm doin wrong then, because my rogue's backstab damage is pathetic.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2014, 12:07:56 pm »

Gotta wonder what I'm doin wrong then, because my rogue's backstab damage is pathetic.

You do have the rogue class aug equipped, right?


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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2014, 02:17:39 pm »

my rogue has my xp mask....damage be damned that man stays in the lineup.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 03:38:26 am »

UW2 stabs for about 1,3 mil without duelist - 3 mil with duelist.

That's after the worn change. Before that the stabs were weaker.
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