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[Thyl]

I do recall another time maybe a year or so back when source code got updated and mob damage went nuts. Hunter logged on  his toon that had one ridiculous item, some kind of stone of uberness or something, and parsed the damage. He made adjustments as necessary. I still felt the damage was higher than it was before but not as crazy as it was after the update.

I did Qvic with 3 toons, I had never boxed before EZ server.  War, Dru, and Mage all with 2.5s.  It was extremly slow.

Starting out you have stonewall for every boss and sometimes for difficult pulls. You should learn which pulls are multiple mobs and how to pull 2 out of a 3 group etc... Send your War in with a cyclone blade and single heal him.

The toughest part of the bosses was keeping the adds from killing the healer. I had to save cyclone blades to hit them as they popped.

[swamphy]

I did qvic with 3 toons with ldon gear and 2.5's. No macs, no hax. When I first started on this server I could only 3 box max with the pc I had and even that was pushing it. I died a lot, and it was slow going, but it was doable.

The strategy for the trash is pretty easy to figure out, pull, set (mobs back to dps, pet class is best), heal, send in pet, heal, done. The heals were direct heals unless a gheal was needed. The bosses and their adds were a different story. Pull, set/stonewall, heal, send in pet. Then it gets different. Anytime you heal you have to pull the pet off in order to make sure adds don't spawn and gank your cleric. Heal lands, send in pet for another second or so till you need heal again. Make sure to burn the adds down just as soon as they spawn. Your not going to have the hp to handle the adds if you end up with multiple ones.

I know this may seem like a really simple strategy but you would be surprised at how many times I have seen people try to just burn the boss down and deal with the adds later, only to wipe over and over again.

Thank you for that input. I remember guilds back in the day trying to burn bosses and ignore adds with the same results.

I'm hoping Hunter is right that there is an AC check issue. It seems like a duel 3.0 warrior with 85% qvic gear and 250+ AA's should be able to tank 2 trash mobs long enough for word of viv to get off at least once. If I have to burn up stonewall to handle trash mobs, how will I ever handle the bosses?

I don't know of any strategy that works when the cleric can't get a single heal off.

(Well there was that time on Live Test server that we zerged the Priest of Discord with 100+ lvl 20's bound right next to him so we could keep fighting. That wouldn't work here.)

Cheers.

[swamphy]

...Starting out you have stonewall for every boss and sometimes for difficult pulls. You should learn which pulls are multiple mobs and how to pull 2 out of a 3 group etc... Send your War in with a cyclone blade and single heal him.

The toughest part of the bosses was keeping the adds from killing the healer. I had to save cyclone blades to hit them as they popped.

I don't understand what you mean by "save cyclone blades". That effect is a proc isn't it? How would you save it?



The clicky effect, AngerIII, is not aoe, is instant, and has no recast time. So I really don't know what you mean by 'saving a cyclone blade'.

Sorry if I'm dense. Just trying to figure it all out.

[Warriorstack]

It is also a Discipline on a timer.  But once you get your 3.0's they spam in combat.  However when you first pull you need something so the mobs dont run off and gank your cleric.

[Thyl]

Like Calvin said Cyclone blade is a proc on 3.0 but you orginially get it as a disc on a timer. I had 2.5s and way fewer hpts when I first did Qvic so when I ran my warrior into multiple mobs I had to make sure to hit Cyclone Blade so I could heal him immediately.

Even after you have 3.0s the Cyclone Blade is a proc and there is a chance an add might just run over to your healer before it goes off. Anger 5s make it even easier but at that point Qvic is pretty much a non-issue.

At this point I just use Druid regen and that makes things way smoother 

[walk2k]

So, just get multiple toons with 3.0s and Qvic gear... to "crack" Qvic....   nobody else see a problem with that?  

[tulsplat]

For a group progressing "naturally" they won't have 3.0's when breaking into Qvic (unless I have my zones mixed up..it's early

my group is almost done getting everyone their 2.5's, sounds like we will have a challenge ahead of us...also our group is a less than ideal combo of Pal/Ber/Dru/Bst/Nec/Clr.  Gonna be fun I imagine   

(I talked the pal into starting his roa with my bst/dru 2 box helping make it faster for him, hopefully the hp on the higher ranks will make up for not having stonewall.  )

[kaizen]

it is a "raid" zone..
a group with 2.5s should be able to do it though

[swamphy]

It is also a Discipline on a timer.  But once you get your 3.0's they spam in combat.  However when you first pull you need something so the mobs dont run off and gank your cleric.

Ok, now it makes sense. Thank you.

I never played a high level warrior on Live, so I'm learning the class as I go.

As far as the apparent AC issue in Qvic, will Hunter let us know when it is fixed?

[Xiggie | Stone]

(Well there was that time on Live Test server that we zerged the Priest of Discord with 100+ lvl 20's bound right next to him so we could keep fighting. That wouldn't work here.)Cheers.

I once charmed a mob and sent it after the Priest of Discord. It confuses the hell out of the guards. First the pod attacks the charmed mob, then he comes after you. However, the guards go after him also. The pod is one tuff cookie, he takes down several guards before he gets killed. Extremely funny, all the noobs around are going wtf is happening, lol.

[swamphy]

Just wondering, is there an item effect that will increase the range of Cyclone Blade??

[biscuits2455]

So, just get multiple toons with 3.0s and Qvic gear... to "crack" Qvic....   nobody else see a problem with that?  

HAH I was just thinking that to myself. The only advice people have is get your 3.0s and Qvic gear. So basically go Ninja loot stuff and have someone else run you through. =P

[Reed]

So, just get multiple toons with 3.0s and Qvic gear... to "crack" Qvic....   nobody else see a problem with that?  

HAH I was just thinking that to myself. The only advice people have is get your 3.0s and Qvic gear. So basically go Ninja loot stuff and have someone else run you through. =P

There is already a very lengthy thread about ninja looting (im assuming you were kidding though)

[biscuits2455]

Yeah i was kidding. The only thing close to ninja looting I have done is on my Alt. I asked the guy if I could loot the vendor gems to sell for some plats for charm upgrades and tinkerers bags. He didnt actually respond but he was moving pretty fast and left the gems on the corpses so i looted them. He didnt say anything so I don't think he was worried about it. Even doing that I felt bad though hah.

My Qvic experience is as follows.

With my beastlord I could barely kill 1 mob with 2.5 pet. My girlfriend played a wizard at the time so she helped DPS alot. We got some groups together with new players like ourselves and they didnt fair too well. I got a few things on my BL by just asking for rots and having some nice guys run me through. (Also that guy who boxes "China" helped me out on my shaman)

So we decided to make a couple alts to lvl up that would make RoA easier. She made a druid and I made a shaman. They are both 70 with 2.5s now. She decided she likes the druid better than the wizard so now that is her main. We are in a guild now so they will probably help us get 3.0s, but our plan was to either get 3.0s on the druid and shaman or just use them to buff with 2.5s and RoA the beastlord and wizard until they could handle Qvic. That plan has changed now that her druid is the main though.

Either way I have fun RoA even if its like 1 a day.

But theres usually people around who will help you out if they see you hanging around looking pathetic for long enough =P Provided your not ninja looting the dickens out of everything.

Also i dont know exactly where you were fighting, but if you can follow someone in deeper the mobs in the courtyard area seem to be easier than the groups of mobs closer to the zone in... but maybe I'm just crazy.

[Xiggie | Stone]

To do qvic your going to need a warrior. Your 2.5 pet will not be able to tank anything, nor will your bst (until you get gear from pass those zones and your 3.0's)

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